P650 or ATI 9x00 ?

[Faramir1966]

Oh no! Dont do it please
Isnt that card slower than a GF4

[Topha]

Originally posted by thop
It was faster in all benchmarks i saw ... price is the same.

Guess why that is...

Here

And here

[Che Guevara]

Althought the DVI ports are the same, matrox still offers better image quality than ATi and Nvidia.
The performance of FX5200 is terrible, better wait for benchmarks of the millenium P-650.

[az]

Originally posted by Che Guevara
Althought the DVI ports are the same, matrox still offers better image quality than ATi and Nvidia.

Care to explain? On the DVI ports, using digital signalling (no DVI-A or the analog part of DVI-I)?

AZ

[Maggi]

Originally posted by az
Care to explain? On the DVI ports, using digital signalling (no DVI-A or the analog part of DVI-I)?

AZ

ever thought about the fact that different manufacturers may use different techniques to generate the picture that is sent to your DVI port ?

[az]

???

Sure, in 3D environments, different levels of Aniso, AA, etc. may make a difference, or in a 2D world color depth, glyph AA (but you'd use ClearType anyway), etc.

But digital signalling is digital signalling, it's either 1 or 0, and you have to follow the protocol. Don't tell me Matrox's DVI port spits out better 1s and 0s than ATIs...

AZ

[Byock]

The 1s and 0s are less fuzzy.

[Maggi]

of course, digital signal stays unaltered when sent to a DVI, but ...

the procedure that generates the picture itself is different on any card and hence all cards produce different images and it's mostly a matter of taste which one you'd prefer.

[az]

So you mean stuff like VCQ etc.?

AZ

[Umfriend]

I think you guys are talking about two different aspects of "Image Quality", but you prolly know that.

[Maggi]

for example, but that's just a name ...

they all use different approaches for subsampling, mipmapping, filtering, blending etc. and thus there has to be a difference between all cards.

not to speak of the very recent developments for "optimizing" drivers to run faster on certain "applications" ... cough cough

or the one series of gfx cards that was unable to use trilinear mipmapping together with anisoptropic filtering ... cough cough

got my point ?

Cheers,
Maggi

[Maggi]

Originally posted by Umfriend
I think you guys are talking about two different aspects of "Image Quality", but you prolly know that.

I guess, we're in the procedure of setting that straight ...

[Topha]

I like your avatar

[Maggi]

hehehe ... "spice of your life"

[the main lobe]

DVI is not equal on all cards

The DSP on cards can be highly optimized for different things, image quality can easily be compromised in order to push out more FPS. I think Matrox is relying on people knowing this in order to sell their cards...Anybody doing Hi Res work still is using a nice CRT though.