My retail Parhelia 128MB has significantly lower core/mem speed.

[sparky001]

Thanks haig for ansering my question as best M will allow you.

In regards to my other question. About Matrox engineers, are there any left from the Mystique era?

You probably could not answer this part of the question, but how do those left from the days of the Mystique feel about M's current direction. I am resonably possitive on your produsts side of things but it the politics that are holding you back.

I'm not going to give you any more about lip about the low clock speeds - you already know about how I feel about that. However despite the fact that you are one of few Matrox employees to visit here means that you are one of the only that we can direct our thought to.

BTW is Matrox looking at doing anything special for their 30th birthday. I know it is a couple of years away but it takes time to plan these things.

Sorry about the thread hi-jack.

[Haig]

Hi sparky,

About Matrox engineers, are there any left from the Mystique era?

That's going back quite a few years but most of them are here.

but how do those left from the days of the Mystique feel about M's current direction.

I personally don't know.

BTW is Matrox looking at doing anything special for their 30th birthday

Not that I know of.

[DGhost]

Originally posted by KintaroOE
whats wrong with his argument ?

Sasq speaks the truth, the card will most likely die as a result of the voltmod. You might have gotten Artic Silver on the PCB of the last one (which i would have been interested in seeing where exactly it got spilt), but you run a very big risk of damaging the new one by performing the volt mod.

and it would be highly unlikely that you would get a better stepping of the P. Last I heard they still had a ton and a half of initial (or near initial) production run cards sitting around. granted, that was > 6 months ago, but they were not exactly flying off of shelves at the time.

[KintaroOE]

Originally posted by DGhost
Sasq speaks the truth, the card will most likely die as a result of the voltmod. You might have gotten Artic Silver on the PCB of the last one (which i would have been interested in seeing where exactly it got spilt), but you run a very big risk of damaging the new one by performing the volt mod.

and it would be highly unlikely that you would get a better stepping of the P. Last I heard they still had a ton and a half of initial (or near initial) production run cards sitting around. granted, that was > 6 months ago, but they were not exactly flying off of shelves at the time.

hey,

my old Parhelia lived with Voltmod & Aircooling 10 Month´s. But i dont think its die from Voltmod. it wasnt extrem high volmodded. let´s get my problem...

to stepping:

i dont say that i want any new stepping. I hope for it ! My new Parhelia must be live to the next Matrox Product thats all. Later i can buy the parhelia Again, because I LOVE MATROX and theyre POWERDESK, fu** i love it.

I have here :

Voltmodded : G400 MAX, Parhelia

not Voltmodded : G200, G100 MMS, Mystique, Millenium, G400 DH, G400 Max. (ALL Original in Covers)

@ HAIG

its time for the Killer Matrox Card ;-) (Joke)

When comes the Fixlist from the 2kxp_105_00_107 driver ?

You plan for Future more AF options like 8,16 AF ?

[K6-III]

We already go to the bottom of that---the Parhelia is only capable of 2x AF in trilinear and 4x in bilinear. They decided not to add 4x just for bilinear...

[KintaroOE]

German :

tut mir leid, aber so eine scheiße hab ich wirklich noch nicht gesehen, das ist etwas was mich an Matrox sooooo extrem aufregt, so gut sie auch sein mögen (egal welchen kult status sie haben) es bleibt eine SCHWEINEREI !!!!!!

Anisotropic Filtering ist wohl das meistbenutzte Feature von Grafikkarten. DANACH kommt erst Anti-Alaising.

Matrox Treiberentwicklung = Kindergarten

Can Anyone translate it for me ? My English is not enough. Sorry

Trotz WERBUNG :

K L I C K H E R E ! ! ! ! ! SuperSample.... JUST KIDDING.

sorry, Haig not for you self,

but its really SHIT what Matrox is doing there, what you mean ?

KIDDING :

Dual-textured pixels with 16-sample anisotropic filtering at comparable performance to dual-textured pixels with trilinear filtering on competing GPUs

[a_h]

Hey Kintaro!

Tschuldige, aber hast du schon mal Treiber entwickelt? Oder bist du von irgendwelchen +20% Performance durch "Treiberoptimierungen" geblendet? Schon mal gedacht, dass diese Treiber (speziell NVidia) vorher scheiss-ineffizient waren?

@300 MHz: dir ist schon klar, dass die Silziumstrukturen nur eine gewisse Überspannung verkraften, bevor sie einfach durchbrennen?

Und du weisst auch, dass Arctic Silver praktisch nicht leitfähig ist, also deine Parhelia gar nicht zerstört hat? Wenn du mir nicht glaubst, lies es doch dort nach:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

Da steht "not electrically conductive"!

In diesem Sinne, Hannes

PS: with respect to Kintaro, I don't translate this into english...

[Admiral]

I screwed up a GeForce 3 when I got some of that "not electrically conductive" AS2 between the memory pins, so I wouldn't rule out artic silver destroying his Parhelia and he shouldn't rule out the voltmod.

As for driver development, people expected to have a fully functional DX9 card and higher anisotropic settings as advertised.

[a_h]

AS has some capacitive resistance, maybe that was the problem.

I'm sure he will do the voltmod anyway, regardless what I say. I just want to clarify that not only heat may destroy an electric element, it's too much current too.

When he cools the chip he's working against symptoms but he does not cure the cause itself.

Transistors (e.g. Mosfets) have only a thin isolator layer between doped semiconducting regions, in short: a too high voltage blows it.

Driver development? I think matrox simply hasn't enough developers to fulfill these requests - how should they have them, when they aren't selling their cards well?

[gangster]

Time for M to have the $199 inventory blow-out sale on the P me thinks..

[Admiral]

I'd settle for 275-300$ for retail and 200-250$ for bulk.
Here, I can't believe a bulk is still 480-500$ while a retail close to 550$.

[KintaroOE]

Originally posted by a_h
Hey Kintaro!

Tschuldige, aber hast du schon mal Treiber entwickelt? Oder bist du von irgendwelchen +20% Performance durch "Treiberoptimierungen" geblendet? Schon mal gedacht, dass diese Treiber (speziell NVidia) vorher scheiss-ineffizient waren?

@300 MHz: dir ist schon klar, dass die Silziumstrukturen nur eine gewisse Überspannung verkraften, bevor sie einfach durchbrennen?

Und du weisst auch, dass Arctic Silver praktisch nicht leitfähig ist, also deine Parhelia gar nicht zerstört hat? Wenn du mir nicht glaubst, lies es doch dort nach:

http://www.arcticsilver.com/as5.htm

Da steht "not electrically conductive"!

In diesem Sinne, Hannes

PS: with respect to Kintaro, I don't translate this into english...

ok das kann ja sein mit dem Voltmod, ich bin mir ja auch nicht ganz sicher... ABER !

Wer hat hier von treiberPerformance geredet ???

Ich meine eigentlich nur das sie die Features freischalten sollen MEHR NICHT ! Von performance war GAR KEINE REDE.

Danke

Mit Allem Respekt, du musst es nicht übersetzten.

[a_h]

Achso, sorry!

Übrigens: wirklich bemerkenswert übertaktetes System, das du da hast!

Liebe Grüsse, Hannes

[Dilitante1]

Sasq we need a Babelfish button to insta translate some of these posts

[KintaroOE]

Originally posted by a_h
Achso, sorry!

Übrigens: wirklich bemerkenswert übertaktetes System, das du da hast!

Liebe Grüsse, Hannes

Angenommen !!

Naja, WAKÜ + VAPOCHILL !

Trozdem Danke.

Its Time for Matrox Killa Card.