The banding issue

[Che Guevara]

Originally posted by Wombat
Yes, and you expect their behavior to improve. But Matrox refused to acknowledge the banding even existed, and even when they did they said it was perfectly acceptable.

Like nVidia did with most of the bugs in the first Gf3 revisions for example, and via did with their pci-bug... and what should they do? Take all P's back and kill their company instantly?

Originally posted by Wombat
Of course, Matrox also makes it easier by not having any worthwhile products in the future.

That's not the point here, right?
We talked about buying a Matrox product in generally, not gaming specific and not today...

[Wombat]

nVidia owned up to it, and later products improved. I still don't buy Via.

[Amiga Blitter]

Well, but if you think about the claimed partial DX9 support retired after two years the story sound a little bit differrent. I like Matrox card. I like the way these card are constructed. I like the quality. But i pay much money for a quality card, i don't want surprise. For the other thing, as i ever said, i want to know more info from Matrox: news, rumors, spec and other goodies.

[Nowhere]

News, rumors and specs about what?

[VJ]

I haven't seen the banding issue on my Parhelia (4x, 128 MB) ...
Then again, my PSU is 510 W (650 W peak) , a PC Power&Cooling 510XE .
Initially, I had a CRT as primary monitor (usually @85 Hz), now it is a DVI LCD (so I wouldn't be able to see it if it were to occur).


Jörg

[Wombat]

Originally posted by VJ
I haven't seen the banding issue on my Parhelia (4x, 128 MB) ...
Then again, my PSU is 510 W (650 W peak) , a PC Power&Cooling 510XE .
Initially, I had a CRT as primary monitor (usually @85 Hz), now it is a DVI LCD (so I wouldn't be able to see it if it were to occur).


Jörg

PSU has nothing to do with it. It was an early theory, but myself and other people upgraded their PSUs and it had no effect.

[Greebe]

The banding issue is due to a poor grounding scheme in the ramdac

[Kurt]

Did cooling affect it? i.e. when using a better cooling device, was the effect less noticeable?

[Greebe]

Cooling will never compensate for a bad ground.

[xortam]

Originally posted by Greebe
Cooling will never compensate for a bad ground.

What if you had really powerful cooling that caused a flow of charged ions towards a grounding point?

[Greebe]

Don't think the package would survive supercooling it that much

[Amiga Blitter]

||ex Matrox beta tester||

Hey Greebe want to be a beta tester

[Kurt]

Originally posted by Greebe
Cooling will never compensate for a bad ground.

I was thinking to reduce the "bad" flow of electrons, but cooling has got nothing to do with it...a redesign is what you need...

[VJ]

Originally posted by Wombat
PSU has nothing to do with it. It was an early theory, but myself and other people upgraded their PSUs and it had no effect.

Oops, I didn't know...


Jörg