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    Matrox G400 / SBLive / 5AGM2 / AMD K6-3 450

    Hello there.

    I hope someone can help me here, I have recently bought a G400 and SBLive card,
    having upgraded the BIOS to 1.5 on the G400, and installed the VIA 4 in 1 drivers (4.1.3)
    as well as the 5.25 version of the Matrox
    PD etc, I am having a couple of problems
    with some games, notably (and possibly rather sadly! ) South Park. There is a general
    instability of the machine of some games.

    The process I went through to install the s/w is :

    1. Clean install of Win98
    2. Install VIA 4-in-1 drivers
    3. Install DirectX 6.1
    4. Install Matrox PD 5.25 (and drivers etc)
    5. Install SBLive drivers

    Not too sure of the relevance of this, but after all this I installed the Win98 service pack 1.

    Most games work fine, but there are a couple
    which do not, South Park for instance just bombs out completely if a lot is happening
    on screen.

    Anyone any ideas of what to do next, or any drivers / s/w i've not installed etc.?

    Thanks in advance.
    AMD K6-3 450MHz
    Chaintech 5AGM-2 MB
    (VIA MVP3 chipset)
    64MB RAM
    G400 AGPx1 32MB
    Pioneer 10x DVD
    Panasonic 4x CD-W
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  • #2
    If you installed the VIA AGP driver in turbo mode. Try reinstalling it in normal mode.

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    Chris Blake
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    • #3
      Trubo mode (VIA's terminology) means that the driver is running your AGP at x2 or 66Mhz rather than 33Mhz (x1 or "Normal" Mode). Some motherboards, socket 7 especially, are not very stable running AGP at x2. The symptoms of this will only show when you run games that put a load on the AGP. I bet you can't run Quake3Test, Re-Volt or Mechwarrior3 for any length of time without them locking or dumping you back to the desktop either.

      Setting the AGP driver to x1 or "Normal" will give you greater system stability and unless you're running benchmarks, you'll probably not notice any difference in performance.


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      • #4
        As it happens, I did install the turbo mode, but what does this do, compared with the
        normal mode? And, any ideas why this would impact only a couple of games?

        Thanks in advance.

        Martin
        AMD K6-3 450MHz
        Chaintech 5AGM-2 MB
        (VIA MVP3 chipset)
        64MB RAM
        G400 AGPx1 32MB
        Pioneer 10x DVD
        Panasonic 4x CD-W

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        • #5
          Chris was pretty much right-on with that last post, except for some nit-picking:
          AGP 1x is 66Mhz, AGP 2x is 133Mhz.

          Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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          • #6
            I know, I know. I shouldn't try and explain anything technical after an afternoon in the pub. Doh!

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            • #7
              Hi.

              I tried the normal mode thing last night. It
              worked quite well to start off with, the game
              played for a while, and then it dumped me back to the desktop again, and again, and again... ;(

              Also, i'm also having trouble when installing
              games using InstallShield. Games like Unreal (which I know there's a patch for once its
              installed!) just won't install, I get a
              GPF with some filename like _ins5162._mp

              Any other ideas of what I could try?
              AMD K6-3 450MHz
              Chaintech 5AGM-2 MB
              (VIA MVP3 chipset)
              64MB RAM
              G400 AGPx1 32MB
              Pioneer 10x DVD
              Panasonic 4x CD-W

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              • #8
                Try loading up the new VIA service pack. I installed it yesterday and since then Re-Volt runs without crashing.

                http://www.via.com.tw/

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                Chris Blake


                [This message has been edited by Chris Blake (edited 10-08-1999).]
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                • #9
                  Hello.

                  I just downloaded the the 4.1.4 drivers from
                  VIA (i assume these are what you mean?), I
                  haven't applied them yet, but all I can see
                  that has changed is the IDE BusMaster driver
                  (2.1.43), which I thought only controlled the
                  HDD/CD drives?

                  Any Ideas on the InstallShield thing?

                  Martin
                  AMD K6-3 450MHz
                  Chaintech 5AGM-2 MB
                  (VIA MVP3 chipset)
                  64MB RAM
                  G400 AGPx1 32MB
                  Pioneer 10x DVD
                  Panasonic 4x CD-W

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                  • #10
                    Can't help you with the uninstall shield problem but there are a few other things:

                    1. Are you running the SBLive 2.1 drivers? If not get them.
                    2. Is your SBlive card in the slot next to the AGP? If it is move it to another slot.
                    3. Increase Graphics Apature Size to greater than 64Mb.
                    4. Disable primary frame buffer.
                    5. May be the 5.30 will help? (Clutching at straws here).

                    Is the 5AGM2 motherboard a Gigabyte? I went through all this with my Gigabyte GA-5AX board, although that was ALi chipset, not VIA. In the end I chucked it for an Epox MVP3G5 I hate to say it but… you know.

                    Hope you get it sorted, I know how frustrating it is.


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                    Chris Blake

                    Epox MVP3G5, K6III450, 192Mb RAM, G400Max DH, SBLive! Value and whole load of other stuff

                    [This message has been edited by Chris Blake (edited 10-08-1999).]
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