UT Wicked? Demo Results on G400's....

[CoolBreeze]

Hello all,

To follow up on my last thread ive decided to post this one. Now that we have a timedemo to post benchmarks with in UT. And for those who dont know the name of the demo...its called Wicked?...You can get it at www.voodooextreme.com . Now here are the results i have got with my rig and my settings i use for online play...and i threw the high/high tex in there too...

My settings for online play:

-1024x768x32
-High Skin Tex
-Medium World Tex
-High Tex
-HUD disabled
-3D Sound Hardware enabled(A3D)

-Results- = 27.5 fps

Setting for High Quality

-1024x768x32
-High Skin Tex
-High World Tex
-High Tex
-HUD enabled
-3D Sound Hardware enabled(A3D)

-Results- = 20.7 fps

***Keep in mind that the Author of the timedemo has a V3 3000 oc'ed at 180 and a P3 500 oc'ed to 660(i think that is the speed of his cpu)....and he only gets 23 fps on High Quality in Glide on his demo. So that says alot about the G400 and D3D in High Quality...interesting demo benchmark if you ask me. But...its kinda strange...in games i average around 45-50 fps through the entire game...oh well. Write back with some of your results...thanx for your time.****

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P3 500(not overclocked)
128 MB PC100 SDRAM
SE440BX-2 Motherboard by Intel
Seagate 8.4 gig HDD
Diamond MX300 Sound Card
AOpen 40x CD ROM
Ethernet 32 bit PCI Card
Motorola Cable Modem
Matrox G400 32 OEM Single Head @150
17" CRT Monitor
Altec Lansing 2 Speakers and Sub

----CoolBreeze aka KAST----

[Ozymandis]

Did you run the test so that is was not limited to 30fps? I get about the same score on my Max.

[CoolBreeze]

Hello,

Im not sure what you mean by limited to 30 fps...I just typed in the console what the author told me to do to run the timedemo...:demoplay wicked?noframecap
Thats all....and those were the results i got.

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P3 500(not overclocked)
128 MB PC100 SDRAM
SE440BX-2 Motherboard by Intel
Seagate 8.4 gig HDD
Diamond MX300 Sound Card
AOpen 40x CD ROM
Ethernet 32 bit PCI Card
Motorola Cable Modem
Matrox G400 32 OEM Single Head @150
17" CRT Monitor
Altec Lansing 2 Speakers and Sub

----CoolBreeze aka KAST----

[The Rock]

CoolBreeze:

Maybe we should be suspicious about this demo. If you look in my sig, you'll notice I have a much less powerful processor than you do (P2 350), and with all details on high, the HUD on, and at 1024x768x32bit, I'm getting over 16fps on that demo. Considering your getting only 4fps more and have a significantly more powerful machine, I'm starting to wonder about this.

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The Rock
"Discourage incest - ban country music NOW!"

System:
P2 350 /w Asus P2B 1010 (PC equivalent of 3 inch penis)
128 Meg PC100 SDRAM
17.2Gig Maxtor DiamondMax HD
6.4Gig Fujitsu HD
Matrox G400 32Meg
SB PCI 128 Sound
Modem Blaster 56K Modem
Panasonic 2x/4x SCSI Toaster
32X CD-ROM

[CoolBreeze]

Rock,

Yes, i find that the benchmarks are low...even on the Author's "Speed Demon" rig. So i just go by the average framerate I get in the game...which is usually around 45-50...I dont see how it is possible for the Author's rig with a V3 3K(glide) which UT was built for....is only getting 23 fps...i know in a game he has got to be averaging over 50...You are right...i dont know what to think of this benchmarking demo...its kinda odd if u ask me.

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P3 500(not overclocked)
128 MB PC100 SDRAM
SE440BX-2 Motherboard by Intel
Seagate 8.4 gig HDD
Diamond MX300 Sound Card
AOpen 40x CD ROM
Ethernet 32 bit PCI Card
Motorola Cable Modem
Matrox G400 32 OEM Single Head @150
17" CRT Monitor
Altec Lansing 2 Speakers and Sub

----CoolBreeze aka KAST----

[IceStorm]

I'll reinstall the 5.25 drivers tonight and give it a shot.

Cool's G400 is clocked up to MAX speeds - 150 is the speed of the MAX's core, right? Take that into account, too.

[The Rock]

Never noticed the 150 clock thingy on Cool's machine. Mine is plain stock. This demo is definetly weird. When I BOTsturbate, I can't see any slowdown at all at 1024x768x32bit with all details high and the HUD on. And I have the slowest box in this forum. I also haven't changed anything in the advanced settings menu. I just let the installation defaults be used and everything defaulted to high.


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The Rock
"Discourage incest - ban country music NOW!"

System:
P2 350 /w Asus P2B /w 128 Meg PC100 SDRAM
17.2Gig Maxtor DiamondMax HD + 6.4Gig Fujitsu HD
Matrox G400 32Meg + SB PCI 128 Sound
Modem Blaster 56K Modem + Panasonic 2x/4x SCSI Toaster + 32X CD-ROM

[Frank]

I seem to recall a signigicant difference in play when I changed two settings in Advanced Settings. Under D3d Renderer I changed Triple Buffer and Trilinear (something) to False. And noted that Use V-sync was Fasle.

[IceStorm]

So here's what I got (all at 1024x768)

All on + HUD : 11 FPS
All on - HUD : 14 FPS
16, high/med/detailed + HUD : 18 FPS
16, med/med/no detailed + HUD : 28 FPS

V2 SLI - doesn't matter what's on or off:

30FPS - BUT... subjectively FASTER than the G400, no question about it.

I don't know what this benchmark does, but it can't be right. The V2 absolutely, positively, FLIES. It's more fluid than water!

The G400 chugs. You can tell it's working overtime just to get the pretty pictures to the screen. Even on the 28FPS settings, it's STILL chugging along in places where the V2 doesn't even notice.

OpenGL for the G400 - fast in places, stutters in other. It is FASTER than D3D when running (for a second or two), but it still stutters quite a bit. It also precaches for MUCH longer than the D3D drivers.

*crosses his fingers* Hope those new drivers on Friday help...

[Bohrn]

I set my system up with all settings on high
including hud, cause I didn't know about that
and in 8x6(old monitor)
I have a 337a celeron (4.5x75) and a G400regSH
I consistantly get 21.somthing fps for the tiemdemo. From what you'all have posted, I should be happier than hell. My processor is
almost half the speed of some people here and the average fps is close. But it is 10 fps slower than on Q3demo 1.08...
Just some info...

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AssuP2B ,300a at 337, 128megs PC100, G40032megSH, Yamaha PCI sound,2 small HD's, 42X Sony CDrom and 98SE w/shutdown patch, PD 5.25 w/beta ICD

[CoolBreeze]

Ya...but we are running our demos at 1024x768x32 not 800x600x32....there is a BIG differece in the two...

PS...im drunk so the spelling is out the window...

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P3 500(not overclocked)
128 MB PC100 SDRAM
SE440BX-2 Motherboard by Intel
Seagate 8.4 gig HDD
Diamond MX300 Sound Card
AOpen 40x CD ROM
Ethernet 32 bit PCI Card
Motorola Cable Modem
Matrox G400 32 OEM Single Head @150
17" CRT Monitor
Altec Lansing 2 Speakers and Sub

----CoolBreeze aka KAST----

[IceStorm]

From Reverend's Pulpit:
(http://www.voodooextreme.com/reverend/Main.html)

NOTE This demo - and UT specifically - totally stresses on the fill-rate capabilities of your video card. If you get very little difference in benchmark scores (going from a slow to much faster cpu), it's because your video card is the bottleneck. I would say that this game/demo is the one to benchmark video cards in general.
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So, our scores are what they are because the G400 can't push the pixels out fast enough, or something inside the card/drivers is bottlenecking the generation of said pixels *cough* drivers *cough*.

I find it interesting that my V2 SLI outperforms the system in the readme file. Like I said, I'm getting 30FPS when running that demo on the V2 SLI rig. :-)

[CoolBreeze]

Yes, that is interesting considering his rig is faster than yours and his V3(@180) is faster than a v2 sli(well in everybenchmark ive seen)...but i dont really think the G400 is (bottlenecked) because its only getting 3 fps less than the Authors V3. So then i guess(by the logic in that article) that the V3(the card UT was built for) is bottlenecked.

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P3 500(not overclocked)
128 MB PC100 SDRAM
SE440BX-2 Motherboard by Intel
Seagate 8.4 gig HDD
Diamond MX300 Sound Card
AOpen 40x CD ROM
Ethernet 32 bit PCI Card
Motorola Cable Modem
Matrox G400 32 OEM Single Head @150
17" CRT Monitor
Altec Lansing 2 Speakers and Sub

----CoolBreeze aka KAST----

[Snake-Eyes]

There's got to be a problem with the benchmarking capabilities in UT right now. For example, I tried the Wicked demo last night, and noticed that twice, when I ran it, the game reported a lowest framerate of less than 1 (ie. one was like 0.41543..., and the other was around 0.7...). This was right at the start of the demo (before anything actually happened). During the rest of the demo, the lowest framerate (I watched closely) appeared to be somewhere between 14-18 FPS, depending on the settings I was testing with.

That <1 result factors heavily into the final framerate report, so I don't trust the UT results at all. Especially given that my experiences while playing, much like most of you, show much better numbers than this demo, even in fairly heavy firefights.

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Ace


[This message has been edited by Ace (edited 10-08-1999).]

[Darek]

If you want to compare your results to author's of this demo you have to run in 16bit colour. V3 3000 doesn't support 32bit. At 16bit I got 27.2 fps. Everything on.

PIII 450@540
160MB RAM
G400 32MB Max