5.50 driver and turboGL

[Tadger]

Umm. i sort of posted this in the powerdesk group but it doesn't appear to have worked...

Is there any need to reinstall turboGL afetr updating the mga drivers to 5.50 ?

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[Snake-Eyes]

After I installed the beta drivers, I clicked on the QuickDesk icon (in the tray), and selected TurboGL Manager from the menu. I then scanned the games to see whether the driver was installed, out of date, or not installed. It appears that everything is still installed fine. This doesn't mean that you won't have some problems with OpenGL games since the new betas have been installed- the TurboGL still works through the PowerDesk drivers. And I've already seen a report from Kruzin (I think, if not, sorry Kruzin) that OpenGL apps (and games) appear to work fine until you try to quit, at which point you get some sort of error, and can't run ANY 3D apps (D3D or OpenGL) until after you reboot.

So far though, I haven't had any problems, and UT appears much cleaner (not sure why, since I still see some probs) that with the 5.41 drivers. I haven't tried my Q3 yet.

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Ace

[AcerX]

Crash occurs when starting Quake3 using TurboGL but works fine with normal OpenGL
Ahtlon 500@550
G400 16M
driver: 5.41.008
Need help

[dwright]

Same here, QIII returns to desktop on entry even before before the ID software logo is displayed. Remove turbogl and it runs fine but at a reduced frame rate.
Is there a fix?

[John Rambo]

OPenGL ICD from PD 5.50beta VS TurboGL Pentium II from PD5.41

test system P2 448Mhz(112x4), Vsync off,Sb live.
1. Q3 Arena full game 1.11, bilinear filter,all 32 bit, text.slider 4/4, geo.det. HIGH, game options-default.
G400 DH 32MB not o/c

res. 6x4/8x6/10x76, sound off
ICD/51.9/42.7/28.0
TGL/52.2/42.9/28.3

res. 6x4/8x6/10x76, sound high
ICD/48.7/42/28.0
TGL/47.8/42.2/28.4

2. all at 16 bit
res. 6x4/8x6/10x76, sound off
ICD/57.8/53.8/38.6
TGL/54.1/52.1/38.6

res. 6x4/8x6/10x76, sound high
ICD/51.6/49.3/38.5
TGL/49.3/48.5/38.6

OPENGL ICD is now on TURBO GL performance level, great job matrox, but some crash occured in only 16 bit rendering Quake3 mode, when resolution has been changed.

Unreal tournament wicked400 timedemo, PD5.41 vs PD5.50beta
fps went from 19.5 to 23.5 at these cond.
1024x768x16bit, volumetric l. TRUE, detail textures True,all settings default, without Trilinear filter a vsync.

sorry my english stuff

Bye

[paulcs]

John, does the Wicked400 timedemo work with the new UT patch?

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[dwright]

Looks like there is no need for the turbogl. I get 35fps @1024*768*32 in Q3 demo1&2 with the 5.50 drivers. Vsync is off, Sb live, textslider 3/4, sound high, bilinear filter. I tested trilinear filter and it costs 5fps.
My hardware: g400max PIII450 256mb P3B-F nothing o/c'd. Last week I tested the turbogl/5.41 at 37fps (same settings), not enough to worry about. All my other applications work as well or better than before. Good work Matrox thanks for the 5.50 drivers.

[John Rambo]

paulcs, i installed the UT405B patch yesterday, it works with Wicked400 timedemo for me.
This is interesting. When I start UT+UT405B first with this benchmark demo(wicked400) or this map DMFractal, there is no image clipping problem-Z buffer bugs, i see clear "yellow" lift pylon. When I start first another map and next this DMFractal map, I see on the "yellow" pylon huge z-buffer bugs. Z-buffer bugs are still present in all maps.

I test now UnREAL with 225patch, but no noticeable performance gains in Direct3D.

sorry my english stuff


regards
Rambo

[John Rambo]

UT+UTpatch405+wicked400 timedemo
PD5.5 beta+DX7
overclocked G400 DH 32MB,FO=387,2.5,2.0,2.5
1024x768 16bit 24.2 fps
1024x768 32bit 22.95fps

voodoo2 sli not o/c 21.03fps glide

others bugs(G400 directX7 driver)
-corrupt SESMAR domination map in 16 bit mode, 32 bit is OK.
-noticeable framerate slowdowns on detailed textures.

and well known image clipping(z buffer bug).

[Gh0st]

Ok....is it just me or does the TurboGL not work with the 5.30 drivers???? This is a letdown because i had to go back to the 5.30 drivers so i could play Thief and System Shock 2. Havent tried Halflife, Quake3, etc with 5.30 yet but i dont think the performance would match the 5.5 Turbogl...Any ideas??It kinda bugs me that matrox would release new drivers that dont fix old problems.
p3-450 128mb g400(16meg)