Quake 3 Arena: linux

[nehalmistry]

hi, i got quake 3 working in linux, surprisingly, and it was no walk in the park...

anyway, i am getting
25fps no action in windows
15fps no action in linux

i havent compiled the agpgart driver into the kernel? would that help me at all?

what else could i do to speed it up?

i know that there are very few of you running quake 3 in linux so any help is appreciated...


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P5A-B AMD K6-266@300
Matrox Milleniumm G200 AGP (oh, lets party)
Creative SB Awe32 (a classic, superb card)
Realtek 8029A NIC Card
64meg Ram
Ali V agp chipset
ICQ UIN: 24730025

[term]

What distro are you using? Upgrading your distro to redhat 7 or mandrake 7.2 might be a good idea.

I use mandrake 7.2 and get better performance in linux (running q3demo, that might make a difference) than I do in windows (running q3 full version)

Also, try increasing your swap partition size. I recommened 128 or 256. If you can spare the space, go for 256 megs of swap since you only have 64 physical ram.

[nehalmistry]

well im using peanut linux and i doubt it makes a difference since it has all the latest libraries...

hmm.... well i swap windows on a file on a seperate partition, 160megs, and i use the whole partition for linux, which turns out to about 180megs.... which i think is more than enuf...

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P5A-B AMD K6-266@300
Matrox Milleniumm G200 AGP (oh, lets party)
Creative SB Awe32 (a classic, superb card)
Realtek 8029A NIC Card
64meg Ram
Ali V agp chipset
ICQ UIN: 24730025

[Wombat]

You haven't compiled the agpgart and mga modules yet? That's the only way I get any performance. My 3D rendering went from seconds/frame to 50-70 fps at 960x720 (down into the 30's with heavy action).
Those modules are a must, but 15fps sounds like a little high to NOT have them. When you're running the X server, type "lsmod" in a term, what does it say?

[Arsa]

Do you see his CPU?
I remember I tried playing Q3 on K6-266 with Voodoo Bunshee... what a pain...

[nehalmistry]

arsa: ur completely right, k6 CPU's are like the worst.... theoretically, im sure a P-Pro MMX running at 300mhz would run much faster than a k6...

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wombat: well the mga module is loaded... i added these lines to /etc/XF86Config

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Load "Module"
Load "glx.so"
EndSection
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off course its loaded, cos quake3 works, also when i shutdown X windows i see all these lines in console starting with [mga] which i didnt get before...

i didnt try the 'newagp' module cos u can only compile it into the kernel, but i tried the other one, 'agpgart', cos u can 'make' that as a module, but when i loaded that module i didnt see a difference in speed...


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P5A-B AMD K6-266@300
Matrox Milleniumm G200 AGP (oh, lets party)
Creative SB Awe32 (a classic, superb card)
Realtek 8029A NIC Card
64meg Ram
Ali V agp chipset
ICQ UIN: 24730025

[Wombat]

You still didn't give the "lsmod" output.

[nehalmistry]

Nehal:~# lsmod
Module Size Used by
sb 6076 0
sb_lib 33308 0 [sb]
uart401 6244 0 [sb_lib]
Nehal:~#

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sorry i couldnt do it earlier, i was at school when i typed the previous reply...

[This message has been edited by nehalmistry (edited 23 November 2000).]

[Wombat]

Odd, it doesn't look like you're using even agpgart, let alone the Matrox module. I haven't looked to see how well the Ali V is supported, though.

Although now it looks like you're using the Utah_GLX stuff (and XF3.3.6 I hope). I'm on the mailing list for that, and things seem good for Gx00's, but I'm using the DRI and mga modules for XF4, which are a different route I suppose.

With just the console running, I have:
Module Size Used by
agpgart 14564 0 (unused)
emu10k1 43436 0


If X were running, I'd have the mga module loaded (and my Visor uses the usb stuff, but that's not relevant). What kernel are you running?

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MSI-6167 w/ Athlon 500@750 (thx Greebe!), 128MB Crucial PC133, G400MAX,SBLive!-MP3,Pioneer 10x DVD, Plextor 12/10/32A, a hard drive or two, and a Sony 420GS. Running RH7.0 (2.4.0-test8), and Win98 (when I have to).

[This message has been edited by Wombat (edited 23 November 2000).]

[nehalmistry]

well just before i posted the lsmod output... i was using 2.2.17... then i tried out 2.4.0 .....

and what module are you talking about..... matroxfb? i tried that and it slowed it down like hell.....

or are you talking about a different X module....

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P5A-B AMD K6-266@300
Matrox Milleniumm G200 AGP (oh, lets party)
Creative SB Awe32 (a classic, superb card)
Realtek 8029A NIC Card
64meg Ram
Ali V agp chipset
ICQ UIN: 24730025

[This message has been edited by nehalmistry (edited 23 November 2000).]

[leech]

The modules that need to be installed for DRI are of course agpgart and mga Although I don't have quake3 to try, I've been having a pain in the ass of trying to get Unreal Tournament to work. It always crashes my computer. I do know in X3.3.6 you just need the agpgart module loaded. Anyone know of a good 3D benchmark program for linux? so far I've just used gears from the mesa demos.

Leech

[Wombat]

No, not matroxfb, that's the frame buffer driver, and not what you want to use.

The AGPgart is what you need, and enable g400 support (and disable 3dfx)

Benchmark:
http://wwwvis.informatik.uni-stuttgart.de/machtest/

[nehalmistry]

ok... wombat... i figured out how to enable AGPgart but can u tell me how to enable g400 support... or tell me where i can find info on how to do it...

sorry... this is my first time playing a 3d game in linux..

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P5A-B AMD K6-266@300
Matrox Milleniumm G200 AGP (oh, lets party)
Creative SB Awe32 (a classic, superb card)
Realtek 8029A NIC Card
64meg Ram
Ali V agp chipset
ICQ UIN: 24730025

[Wombat]

which kernel?

[nehalmistry]

most probably im going back to the 2.2.17 kernel... i dont wanna use an unstable kernel

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P5A-B AMD K6-266@300
Matrox Milleniumm G200 AGP (oh, lets party)
Creative SB Awe32 (a classic, superb card)
Realtek 8029A NIC Card
64meg Ram
Ali V agp chipset
ICQ UIN: 24730025