I downloaded the Matrox Tweak Utility v1.2 and it doesn't work with the december 22nd drivers. Does any body know what I can do to get it to work with my G400?
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To Venturer: My actual score with a TBird 1000 (first try) no overclocking or tweaking was 3,371. I don't know why the classic Athlon would score less, but I expect it has something to do with 3DMark being set up to take advantage of the newer processors.
I would agree with the default bench being the one to use since everyone ought to be able to run it.
With tweaking and oclocking with MGA tweak I got my old P3667 from just under 3000 to just over 3100 so I expect if I tried the same with the TB1000 I could get >3500.
Sorry to say I won't be trying since someone bought me a Hercules 3D Prophet (GF2 MX twin view) for Chrimbo and that scores ~ 5000 on default with the TBird and I think a lot more is possible with a bit of overclocking.
Incidentally I still have the G400MAX and an old (OEM) G200 so if anyone is interested let me know, I would like to see either of them go to a good home. The Prophet will go in the bin just as soon as the G800 (or whatever its called) is in the shops. (the DVD playback is pants compared to the G400).
Take care, everyone.XP1800+ MSI 746Ultra 256Mb Corsair PC2700 MSI GF4800SE SBLive! WD 80GB 7200 DVD CDRW
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PS The rest of the system is as follows:-
Memory 128Mb Crucial ~7E PC133@CAS2
Hard disc Diamond Max 20Gb UDMA66 7,200rpm 2Mb cache
Pioneer 6x DVD
SB Live 1024
OS WinMe (previously Win 98v1)
I don't think any of that makes any difference with 3DMark except maybe the memory, but if anyone else has any different experiences I would be interested to know.
Thanks again.
JonXP1800+ MSI 746Ultra 256Mb Corsair PC2700 MSI GF4800SE SBLive! WD 80GB 7200 DVD CDRW
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Seaspray what motherboard do you have?
My G400MAX is running at 2x AGP speed because at 4x the system is very unstable!
Perhaps the differece is made by your G400 AGP trasfer speed!
Is it 4x?
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P3 1 Ghz 512MB 133mhz Abit Sa6r(i815e) G400MAX WinME DirectX 8 pd6.21
default 3dmark test (1024x768x16):3460 3dmarks.
[This message has been edited by Michel (edited 31 December 2000).]PIII 1Ghz|AbitSa6R|512mb Kingston|Matrox Parhelia 512 Retail|80gb WD & 30gb IBM 75gxp|Diamond MX300 A3d 2.0|36xcdrom|6x32AopenDVD|Sony DRU500A|Intel Pro 10/100 S|IIyama Vision Master Pro 450 | Celly 300a@450 'server' powered by a G400MAX
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I get 2903 with 1024x768x16x16, triple buffer
Intel opts.
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Envision 17",Terrayon Cable modem w/D-Link nic,1 grey cat,1 black cat & 1 calicoAMD XP2100+, 512megs DDR333, ATI Radeon 8500, some other stuff.
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My system:
P3-750@825
256MB of Micron PC133 at 2-2-2
Abit BE6-II (110 FSB)
G400 MAX (no OC) 5.31
SBLive! Platinum 5.1 (Live!Ware is installed)
Win2K SP1
DirectX 8
Default bench gets me 3266.
Now, my friend's system seems slow:
ThunderBird 1GHz (no OC)
256MB of Micron PC133 at 2-2-2 (Memory speed is 133MHz)
Asus A7V (100Mhz FSB)
G400 MAX (no OC) 5.31
SBLive! Value (no Live!Ware, only drivers)
Win2K SP1
DirectX 8
Default bench gets him 2866.
Our systems are similar, except for the CPU and mobo. From some of the scores posted here, he should be getting a higher score. Any optimisation tips? He's peeved that my "slower" machine is much faster (and stabler) than his. Or is it just that 3DMark takes more advantage of SSE than 3DNow!?
[This message has been edited by Liquid Snake (edited 01 January 2001).]
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To Venturer: My current motherboaord is a Gigabyte GA7ZX (VIA KT133). My G400MAX ran at AGP4x but I only used it for 3DMark testing before I installed my new graphics card.
Prior to that I was running a Tyan Trinity 400 (VIA Apollo 133A). Setting to AGP 4x was one of the 'tweaks' I used to increase my 3DMark score (amongst others) that got me from ~2900 to ~3100. However, I found that in general use 4x wasn't 100% stable so I switched back to 2x. Maybe if your MAX only runs stable at 2x that explains your low(er) score? Could be. If you have a motherboard with a VIA chipset, try installing the latest VIA AGP driver, maybe that will help.
Good luck
Jon
XP1800+ MSI 746Ultra 256Mb Corsair PC2700 MSI GF4800SE SBLive! WD 80GB 7200 DVD CDRW
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To Liquid Snake:
I agree that your friend's system seems 'slow' compared to yours, and that this is probabaly because 3DMark works better with Intel processors than with AMD. However, the reason for his 'low' score compared to mine is probably because he is runnign win2k when I am running Me.
As far as I know, 3DMark runs MUCH better with Me (or any 9x windows) than with 2k (or NT, if it runs at all with NT).
From what I have seen, I would say ~2900 is a v good score with 2k.
Thanks.XP1800+ MSI 746Ultra 256Mb Corsair PC2700 MSI GF4800SE SBLive! WD 80GB 7200 DVD CDRW
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I've played with AGP 1x and 2x settings and 3DMark2000 v1.1:
WIth my G400 vanilla in Win2k (PD5.31) those modes don't make a single difference in real world performance, and only the AGP texture tests in 3dmark benefit a few percentages... the total score is exactly the same in agp 1x as in agp 2x mode:
about 2773 when I don't overclock my P3-700
overclocked at 933 it does 3000
I think PD5.20 or 5.14 was faster, so I'll check soon, and will benchmark all the g400 win2k drivers startiing today
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