G400 same performance of Savage4?

[Sir Gwynz]

I just upgraded to a G400 Dual-Head from a S3 Savage4 Xtreme video card, but I didn't see much improvement:

Quake2 demo1 640x480 120 fps
Quake2 demo1 800x600 88 fps
Quake3 demo001 640x480 59 fps (32-bit color/textures/max settings/bilinear)

Those scores are almost dead even with my Savage4 card! Is the performance of these two cards really that similiar or did I install something wrong? Also I get the same fps with the Quake3 demo001 using trilinear filtering with my Savage card, but it goes down 10 fps if I enable it on the G400.

My setup is a C600@900/256 megs RAM. Please let me know if those scores sound about right for my system!

BTW I have to admit 2D quality seems a whole lot nicer

[Maggi]

Welcome to the brighter side, Sir Gwynz !


I dunno about the Savage, but the G400 does real tri-linear mipmapping and thus takes a noticable performance hit. TNT-2 for example faked it by using dithering combined with bi-linear filtering and therefore they were always faster in tri-linear filtering.

IF you have some scores with bi-linear, set the G400 to same settings and try again.

Another option is to overclock your card and gain more performance ...

Just do a search on overclock G400 Q3 or something to that extend.

If you run into problems or have any furtehr questions, you know where to ask.



Cheers,
Maggi

[dq]

Try higher resolutions like 800x600 at 32bit or 1024x768 at 32bit... your G400 will blow Savage4's crippled 64bit memory interface.

[Nuno]

That´s correct. Even with a G400/Savage4/TNT2 class video card you´ll be more limited by cpu than the video card at these resolutions.

[Evil_Donnyboy]

Also make sure you have the latest drivers for the G400 and your VIA motherboard (if applicable).

Try the TurboGL drivers as well, as they often give a sizable speed increase in speed in Q3 (but with the trade-off of bugs).

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[DuRaNgO]

LOL
You do not need the turbogl if you're using the latest drivers!
jim

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[EvilDonnyboy]

A lotta ppl, including me, have speed increases with the TGL mini-ICD combined with the 6.xx drivers.

[spawn666]

i dont use the tgl, the improvement isnt worth it. 6.50 rocks and is easy to handle. and the savage4 has a nicer and sharper image compared to the tnt2.

but in 1024*768*32 this thing is sucking.