Quake Arena on P III/450

[jofoolso]

Hello, my Quake Arena on Pentium III/450 Mhz with Matrox G450 DDRAM 16MB is going not fluent. On second PC, where i have Pentium III / 733 Mhz, is going Quake Arrena very good. It is 283 Mhz so big contrast between procesors ?

[Alec]

The G400 and G450 need a powerful processor to work fast, and so, the difference between a 450 and a 733 becomes very noticeable on these cards.

Also, a computer´s performance doesn´t depend only upon the processor, there are many other factors involved (both in hardware and in software installed). So, your second PC, apart from a faster processor, may have faster components (RAM, HDD, motherboard, etc...)

[This message has been edited by Alec (edited 23 May 2001).]

[Wombat]

In that range, the G400 is still scaling (linearly?) with the CPU speed. I wouldn't be surprised if your framerates are 50% higher.

[DosFreak]

What resolution/game settings are you using?

[xortam]

As I posted in this thread about scaling:

I upgraded from a P!!!/450 to a P!!!/850. I saw the following FPS increases in Q3A 1.11 on my Max using PD 5.52 Full ICD at normal game settings (medium geometric detail, medium texture detail, bilinear texture filter) running at 8x6 to 12x10 resolutions:

demo001, 32 bit: ranged from 40.61% to 24.29%
demo001, 16 bit: ranged from 64.04% to 21.65%

demo002, 32 bit: ranged from 38.54% to 18.87%
demo002, 16 bit: ranged from 67.61% to 18.39%

The 1.30 TurboGL generally gives faster rates (especially at lower resolutions) but doesn't benefit from the increased CPU speed as much as the full ICD.

You'll see an almost direct increase of your frame rates relative to the amount you overclock your G400.

[jofoolso]

1. PC:
Pentium III / 733 Mhz, 128MB (133mhz) RAM, Intel Easton 815 motheboard, Matrox G450 16MB DDRAM.

2. PC:
Pentium III / 450 Mhz, 256 MB (100mhz) RAM, Abit motheboard, the same Matrox G450 16MB DDRAM.

Whene i play Quake Arena on first PC in resolution 800x600, or 1024x768 with 16bit or 32bit color on 1.PC, its all ok. Fluent screen.

Whene i play the same Quake Arena on second PC, on all resolution and color depth is screen torn, titful, not fluent.

[spawn666]

a p3 450 is easily to overclock. just push your fsb a little bit and you will see the difference. just 105mhz fsb would be noticeable.

but dont do it if you dont have too much experience.

[dbdg]

I have clocked my P450 upto 504 (112fsb) and it has been fine now for over a year. I am happy to play at slightly lower detail setting but for me Quake 3 runs fine. I havn't bothered ever benchmarking Quake as it runs ok and I am not that interested.


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PIII450@504, G400 32MB DH, 384MB, BX2000 MOBO.

[Ali]

What Abit Mobo? does it use a BX chipset, or a VIA one?

If its a VIA one, then have you loaded the 4 in 1s?

Also, what DX version are you running?

The 450 should be fine. At work here we have P3 450s, 128MB RAM, 16Mb G400SH, and they play Quake3 Ok (800X600). They arent power machines of course, but they were never meant to be.

Ali

[Heiney]

This reminds me of my old P3-450.......

I got that baby up to 640MHz. Used a Global Win VOS32 cooler (BIG!) on a Abit BF6 (440BX) with some Crucial PC133 CAS2. Worked pretty good! The voltage was 2.3v, quite hig but if you have the cooling, it'll be ok.

That's one hell of an overclock for a .25 micron P3.

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ABIT BF6, Pentium III 1GHz, Alpha P3125 Cooler, 256MB Crucial 7E, Quantum Fireball Plus LM, IBM 75GXP, Matrox G400 DH@160/200, Enlight 7237, 300watt TurboCool PS, and some fun with a Dremel!