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  • Carmack speaks about Doom leak

    No, this was not leaked on purpose. Yes, we are upset about it, and it will have some impact on how we deal with some companies in the future, but nothing drastic is going to change in terms of what support is going to be available. Making any judgements from a snapshot intended for a non-interactiv...


    No, this was not leaked on purpose.

    Yes, we are upset about it, and it will have some impact on how we deal with some companies in the future, but nothing drastic is going to change in terms of what support is going to be available.

    Making any judgements from a snapshot intended for a non-interactive demo is ill advised.

    John Carmack

    So...was it ATI or not?
    C:\DOS
    C:\DOS\RUN
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  • #2
    I dont think we will ever know...

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    • #3
      Actually, you must have missed that. It was ATI for sure. Id says that they watermark every build they give to people, and the leaked one came from ATI.
      Taken from HTGK, no word on it's validity, but still interesting:

      "Xian> ATI leaked it
      Xian> oh we will. We are hoping our rep gets fired.
      Xian> John sent them a flame mail yesterday basically saying "This has hurt our relationship"
      Xian> haha, no
      Xian> not really
      Xian> they sent us a development laptop with a full build of Unreal Warfare on it
      Xian> yep
      Xian> Well, we deleted it
      Xian> that's a whole can of worms we don't want to get into
      Xian> yeah, well, ATI has clearly violated our NDA
      Xian> we thought about that.
      Xian> but, no
      Xian> ATI is on our shitlist right now
      Xian> we are not dealing with them until further notice
      Xian> no, it's not public chiQ
      Xian> We know ATI leaked it. We watermark all releases
      Xian> Squiggle: ATI has a relaxed policy about pre-release software. Remeber, they gave us a laptop that had Unreal Warfare loaded on it 3 months ago
      Xian> They don't seem to care about strict enforcement of NDA's
      Xian> on a positive note, people seem to *REALLY LIKE* the leaked shit"
      Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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      • #4
        who is this xian?
        no matrox, no matroxusers.

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        • #5
          Xian is an idsoftware employee.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Wombat
            Actually, you must have missed that. It was ATI for sure. Id says that they watermark every build they give to people, and the leaked one came from ATI.
            Oh yeah, that's a convincing proof, for sure. A short snip of an IRC - well, noone would ever be able to fake that.

            When JC says it was ATI or Xian says that it was in fact him that posted such, then it is a proof.
            But we named the *dog* Indiana...
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            German ATI-forum

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            • #7
              Originally posted by thop
              who is this xian?
              Xian is the nickname of Christian Antkow, a designer @ id software...
              I'll buy a new card Soon™, very Soon™!
              + =

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              • #8
                note that the Xian comments are faked...

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                • #9
                  so BLAME ATI
                  Hey! You're talking to me all wrong! It's the wrong tone! Do it again...and I'll stab you in the face with a soldering iron

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