Parhelia overtaken by ati9000?

[bsdgeek]

Originally posted by Chrono_Wanderer
R9600?

P can't even compete with Ti4600 last time I checked! And i'd assume a 9600 is faster than a 4600

well, good to see here are some who still love P. (I personally think its a failure for matrox.)

4600 still packs quite a punch when compared to 9600Pro/5600Ultra in non AA, often winning by quite a bit, but losing (sometimes horribly) when AA is on. 9600Pro, 5600Ultra, and Parhelia overtake it considerably after the IQ gets bumped up, and the P still holds its own against those 2.

Also, FWIW, compared against a few systems of similar speed and a 4600, my Parhelia outscores it by a thousand or 2 on Aquamark.

[Che Guevara]

Parhelia is definitly too expensive for a gamer, but I think the product itself is quite good, not perfect of course, but good. In my opinion the architecture has delivered a second chance on a new designed card (Pitou bla bla you know what I mean )...

I'm a 'happy Parhelia user' and I won't ever change my P. for an other card.


@Performance:
It's always a question of bechmarks:
Parhelia really performs like actual mid-performance cards in some actual benches, like R 9600 or FX 5600, but of course it would never beat a Ti 4600 in Q3A for example.

[IM_Riktar]

I own a ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 64mb and a Parhelia 128mb. Using Unreal Tournament (The only game I play) the Parhelia absolutely stomps the 9000. Not to mention the visual quality is at another level.

I really wanted to like the 9000 but the damn 2d just gives me a headache unless I ramp the refresh to 120 hertz. And even then I can tell a noticeable difference between the cards.

Maybe my eyes are just getting picky in their old age. Who knows?

[Indiana]

The 9000 series cards are known to have worse 2D than other ATI cards (the same is true for the 8500 series)
7x00/9500/9600/9700/9800 should be better. Another thing to note is if it is a BBA or a cheap thrid party built one (like PowerColor, Club3D,...)

[K6-III]

If I remember correctly, the 2D on the 9000 Pro is the same as the 9700, etc...but the 8500 is quite a bit behind...

[IM_Riktar]

The 9000 is a retail ATI card bought at Best Buy. And I should note it is an improvement over the first Radeon AIW I tried. But it just doesn't compare to the Matrox cards.