ever tried to crunch in W98 safe mode ?

[MegaManX4]

Hmm, I like my G400 really. But I must upgrade now because I want to play in 1024x768x32 but it is not possible to run it with 50fps. So until the G800 comes out my card of choice is a Voodoo5 5500. I would wait till the G800 arrives but mass production of the chip starts in September, even if we see a card in december the drivers will be crap and I don't want to wait till next year.


Mega

[Assimilator1]

Paulcs

Err ,I'm afraid the TNT2 is faster than the G400 in most games & situations .Want me to dig out some links showing this?
And yes I know the G400 has a better quality 2D engine

Pace

Get a decent monitor first hehe


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[Maggi]

Hi Assim,

yes please, show us those scores ...

I'll see if I can find some too, ok ?

[Assimilator1]

OK ,is this where I find out that my info is totally out of date & I get humilated?
Nah! surely not?.......
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1231&p=12

Hmm ,lost & won ,TNT2 better at higher res
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1231&p=13

OK ,lost this one
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1231&p=17

Lost & won & won this 1!
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1231&p=18

Won & lost this 1 ,just
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1231&p=18
Won this one easily ,what happened to the G400 here? strange.

BTW I'm not going to be banned for being OT am I?
http://www.anandtech.com/showdoc.html?i=1231&p=23

Same again ,doesn't the G400 like D3D?

Anyway ,I'm drunk ,enough of looking at 1 review ,I'll look for more tommorow when sober if you like.

Good night

BTW I've got nothing against the G400 ,except its price




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[Maggi]

Geeze ... are you only surfing on AT ?



No need to post more though, because it seems that you found out what's it about ...
They are on par.



Cheers,
Maggi

PS: you had to be way more nasty to get banned ...

[Assimilator1]

Maggi

No ,I visit other hardware sites too ,Sharkeys,Toms,BX boards, a few others occasionally.
I just know my way around Anands the best

BTW ,on par ,I'd agree.Looks like the G400 caught up with the TNT2 since its early days .BTW what gives with the D3D game?

ColinP

LOL

Good to see ya around here ,was you waiting for me to take any possible flack before you took the risk of posting here? hehe ,chicken!:P

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[ColinP]

Ass1
OB...

So this is where you've been hiding !!!!

Get back to T.A.

You're grounded !!!!!



Col

P.s.

Big hello to the Murcers !!

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[Maggi]

Heya, Colin !

Welcome aboard ...

But beware, you might get addicted when visiting too often ...

Cheese !
Maggi

[Swing]

I started reading this thread and about half way down Assimilator1 and office boy made some comments about the G400.

Assimilator1 said he is using a TNT2.

I have a little test for you guys. Set down in front of a good 21 inch monitor and run UT with the nVidia card and then the G400.

With the nVidia card UT is UGLY .

As for speed, the G400 has come a long way with improvements since it was first introduced, AGP 4x, better drivers, OGL support and BIOS upgrades.

Actually, I like TNT2 cards, as long as they are used in someone elses computer!

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[Maggi]

hehehe ... nice shot, Swing ...

Fortunately we (well most of us) are grown too mature to take flamebaits that are offered by NVidia users ...

If they insist though, we are well prepared with our asbestos suites and announce:





Cheers,
Maggi

PS: Big thanx to Pauly for his still unbeaten logo !!!

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[Assimilator1]

Swing

Well ,with my diddy little 15" monitor a G400 would be waste of money .

BTW ,what gives with those poor D3D UT scores with the G400?

I thought the G400 only had a quality image advantage in the 2D side of things?

>>>With the nVidia card UT is UGLY<<<

Are you sure? have you seen both on the same monitor?

UT looks good on mine
I admit that I have never seen a G400 in action myself though

Peace

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[Maggi]

Good Morning Assim ...

UT craps out when trilinear filtering is enabled. Reason for that is that - in contrary to the TNT & TNT-2 - the G400 does true trilinear filtering amd not only dithered bilinear filtering (NVidia)...
Thus the G400 takes a performance hit when using trilinear instead of bilinear filtering which can also be seen in Q3 for example.

What scores did you mean exactly ?
Also it makes quite a difference which set of drivers they used.



Cheers,
Maggi

PS: Peace is cool !

[Pace]

Maggi: Anand used the 5.52 drivers for the G400 MAX and Detonator 5.16 for the NVIDIA cards - here's the UT results I assume Assimilator1 was referring to (running on a P3-550E):

640x480



1024x768



1600x1200



Assimilator1: And you made a shot about getting meself a good monitor - do you think I'd be a Matrox fan if I didn't have a nice monitor - how does a Iiyama VM-Pro NF 450 grab you?

Hehe - poxy little 15"er !

Paul.

[Maggi]

I see ... thanx Paul !

I guess nobody else noticed it, but the D3D performance continously lowered with every release since the 5.13 set of PowerDesk.
Interesting enough that the OGL performance raised to a bigger extend.
I haven't checked the PD6 performance to that extend yet, because as you know, I recently upgraded my CPU and all my former results (I still have tons of 'em ) were all run on either my Cel300@450/464 or the Cel333@500.

Anyway, did you also find the exact setup for UT ?
As I posted above, it could be also related to the use of trilinear filtering.

Cheers,
Maggi

PS: How sounds a 22" Eye-Q 127kHz DiamondTron Natural Flatscreen on primary and 21" Nokia Xi445 95kHz on secondary VGA ?

[Assimilator1]

Pace

Nice monitor ,I was just pulling your chain anyway ,*sigh* meanwhile I'm stuck with a little looking glass .

Maggi

Interesting point you raise about the Trilinear filtering ,at the end of the day though it's nasty performance hit

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