To those who wish to leave Seti...

[Paulr]

From a personal point of view I shall continue running SETI and SETI only.
Just because my average work unit time has dropped from 7hrs to almost 9hrs doesn't bother me.
My output will drop, I shall continue to crunch.
If V4 of the client came out and it made things even slower I'd still continue with it.
I was a member of another SETI group but interest started dropping off and that was the main reason I left them and joined up here.
If the same thing started to happen here, the chats stop, the stats vanish, high crunchers suddenly not turning in results I'd probably just move on again.

BladeRunner

[This message has been edited by Paulr (edited 13 February 2001).]

[Liquid Snake]

I think that is starting to happen. The forum has been very quiet lately. Sisyfos hasn't posted the stats for a while. Though, Rags has starting crunching again

[CharlesWA]

I'm staying! If/when I change jobs and lose access to all these computers, I'll still continue to crunch at home. Yeah, I'll be down to a few WU a day, but I'll keep the effort going.

Time to light up the dual P-150 machine I think.

[rocketmanx]

Hi all,
I can speak for myself only but my own personal interest with anything Matrox oriented was blown away with the announcement that we wouldn't be seeing a G800 anytime soon( I went out and bought a 64 meg Radeon -which I love- as I will not stand for anything less than Matrox 2d/3d quality on my gaming machines desktop). I was brought to this site because of my love for Matrox graphics cards and having already being involved with SETI (I joined Team Lambchop aand did 1 WU in a years time for lack of machines and interest) I felt that I could feel a part of a unique team of individuals who showed class and a somewhat unique good taste in hardware. Matrox users seem to be a little more refined and individualized in their tastes. Back to my point/observation. It seems activity around here came to a screaching halt with the previously mentioned announcement. I was definitely extremely disappointed/frustrated as it seems I've had my G400 Max forever. After getting my Radeon and already being an owner of Hercules Geforce 2 64 meg I realized that ATI nor Nvidia will never be like Matrox and regained a glimmer of hope and a somewhat renewed patience for a Matrox to deliver a new card in my lifetime. With that relization I turned my machines back on 24/7 as I had noticed the slowdown around here and decided i may as well see what my electric bill was like without 4 dual proc machines running 24/7 (it was much quiter at night too ) My point is is that I feel a unique place here and thought that this site would probably be gone soon if Matrox didn't produce a new board for the home desktop within the coming year. I feel now that we will all still be here a year from now and feel I owe any cycles I can spare to a team that I feel I "belong" to. I just got done with a new 1-gig Athlon box (my first AMD cpu ever) and will be starting up the client tonight as well as getting my dual Xeon box functioning again tonight as it has been off most of the past three weeks due to upgrades. Just "went around the barn" so to speak but I tend to ramble when I get semi worked-up about something. By the way I have noticed that Team Lambchop and many others seem to be losing members as well. We need to stay together as a lot of people probaly want to get in on the ground floor of some these new projects which should eventually give us an advantage.
Pete

[Pace]

Community is such as common word (but, as Ant says, we are) - I prefer the term user group

Why? Well, because that makes us a MUG

Paul.

[Pace]

Oh, and Paulr, I've kinda noticed it too, that's why I've been looking into this. Not to the detriment of Seti, but to boost this forum etc.

Also, if we can get a comprehensive chart of what each project offers (and doesn't offer), then I'll stick up a poll on the site (or would you want to Ant? Maybe just mention it?) to see which project would attract the most members.

I'm also unsure as to whether our already non-Seti friends, will agree to run whatever program we choose - can anyone confirm that they'd go with, say RC-5, if we chose that?

Thanks,

Paul.

[Ant]

Well the MURC has been around for over 5 years during some very large ups and downs on Matrox's part so don't think the delay in the next Gwhatever will do away with us I've always tried to focus the site very much as a user group and community rather than just being some kiddie fan site and I think that is the reason we've been around so long and why we have such a good seti team.

For my own part I'll stick with seti although the thought of the genome project does tickle my fancy as well as that's close to my field of work.

[Rattledagger]

Genome@home has now released a new client, version 0.91.

Main new features:
Saves info on progress after every sub-run. There's 30 sub-runs in a full "wu". Still, with 24-48h/wu you can lose 1-2 hours of crunching.
Caching: If can't connect to server before 20min after done a full run, saves result and re-run the already got wu. "Since
the results are different each time G@H... runs, this is completely equivalent to downloading brand new work units."
You can litterally run with only one wu-download for many months before you upload all results.
Should be faster & more stable than previous client.

Then can't connect, the client will be idle for 20 minutes before continuing.

[-=Narcissus=-]

Thanks Rattledagger...

I started a WU over a day ago and I was wondering if something was going wrong since still haven't finished it. I can't wait now, because my computer need to reboot badly!

I'll try the new client and I'll have my basic-user-who-doesn't-know-much-about-anything review in about a week. So far it isn't bad at all, but there's a few features missing...

BTW anyone having strange ways to count to 30 with G@H? Mine was 1 to about 14, then back to 2, going up in double increment to about 26 then back down again to 12(?) and I'm now into 28... Weird, sorta makes you ask questions about some programmers' counting abilities. Then again I might be hallucinating this whole thing .

Way to go Rattledagger, MatroxUsers is 27th in the world thanks to you! We sould jump once more with a few more genes!

Bye!
Fred


[This message has been edited by -=Narcissus=- (edited 14 February 2001).]

[Rattledagger]

Genome@Matrox is up to #25
Hey, even you've done 2 genes, I've done more wu than you.

Compared to seti@home it's a funny way to count wu. The method to count Genome@home is this:
A download-wu containing 100 amino-acids is after the 30 intermediates counted as 30wu-returned. If longer or shorter than 100, the wu-returned is modified.
If crunching-time is directly comparable to the aminoacid-length, this is a good thing.
I don't know if the aminoacid-length is the same as the "positions to filter" done at start, but probably it is.

As for the funny counting, I saw it too. This bug is atleast fixed in the new version.
Talking about memory-usage this is also funny. It looked as it used upto 12MB for the first half and upto 4MB for the second half. Max memory usage is 19MB, I think this was at the start of the wu. All the time it's sitting on 48MB virtual memory.

Now, I used just over 42 hours on my first returned. Since this is 25,05 wu, this is 1,75h/wu The same machine uses around 10,5 hours on seti@home.

[Rags]

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[Zyn]

Ok, now this is way-off subject.
But how about creating 1 account.
Like, gods@Irule.com or whatever we want.
And have everybody stop their personal crunching, and just be 1 extreme eleeeT account? You may think Im craZy, but what the hell.

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I wasn't born, I was created.

[-=Narcissus=-]

Yep, that G@H counting stuff is weird! The two genes that I've done were with the same data block. The good thing is that you get WU points for processing and not for the block itself. This is different from S@H, where you sometimes get a noised out 1 hr WU.

I too am getting about 1.7hrs/WU with my c466. If I were using S@H, I'd rock (or most likely be cheating )!

Zyn, I'd accept going in the 1 account thing. But anyway, if everyone was going to crunch away with G@H, team MU would be in the top ten after a few days! There already are a few "superusers", so I don't see the point. Furthermore, the personal stats page is pretty cool, showing pictures of the genes you completed. I sorta like it.

Fred

[-=Narcissus=-]

Just a quick update...

With Pace's WU, we're now upto 21st place... This is too easy!

Fred

[Jorden]

Just to show I wouldn't switch teams or quit altogether, I downloaded the command-line 3.03 and started crunching again. Let's see what comes from it

I wouldn't want to go for another kind of cruncher either. Tried Folding, but it was just too annoying, plus that one crashed on me a couple of times, taking my Windows along.

Jord.