So, who's going to go out and buy WindowsMe...

[paulcs]

...do a clean install, and then do everything in your power to make it look as much like Windows 95 as possible?

I certainly did this with Windows 98. I can't see things changing much.

Paul
paulcs@flashcom.net

[SteveC]

No - this WinME is just the win2k front end on a win98 platform... oh, and the no DOS support thing. I certainly wont buy it, but I'll probably end up 'acquiring' it.

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"Life is what we make of it, yet most of us just fake"

[Jammrock]

Pay...buy...purchase...huh? What do these terms mean?

WinME is just GUI update to Win98 with some bug fixes and few new gadgets. Nothing I would spend any money on. If it was something revolutionary I might. But when was the last time M$ did anything but copy and paste other peoples ideas?

Jammrock

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Athlon 650, Biostar board, 128 MB PC133 (Crucial), G400 32 MB DH, SB Live! w/ Digital I/O, 10/100 NIC, lots of case fans, etc...

[Himself]

I don't use MS's shell so I couldn't be bothered with a new one, getting rid of more 16 bit is always good though and I'm sure it will become a requirement in terms of support so you'll probably have to get it. As usual.

[LAMFDTK]

I will get asap, I like the Box.
I hope to buy it on Ebay for 23.00...

[Nuno]

Maybe I´ll regret what I am saying now, but I won´t even "aquire" it. Windows 9x? Just say NO

[Thundrchez]

Not I. w95 running real lean (i.e., no IE) does all right for me.

[Buuri]

No - this WinME is just the win2k front end on a win98 platform... oh, and the no DOS support thing.

I wonder what makes people think that new version of Windows is always just the same old core with improvements in GUI? This has been going on since the days of Windows 1.0 so my question is, how many here thinks that WinME will contain code from original Windows 1.0?
Yet every time someone seems to know nothing has changed..

It's not like removing DOS means leaving out some DOS.EXE from the installation CAB.

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[Buuri]

You can read what's new in WinMe <a href="http://www.microsoft.com/WindowsMe/">here</a>. I would list UPnP as one very exciting feature, and it's completely new technology.

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[Frankfurt]

im with Merchant2112, of the 4 operating systems that are on my system, i would have to say that windows 98 is my least favorite.
Unfortunately most of the programs i enjoy need windows 98 to work (Personal cobol (dont ask) and certain games come to mind).
And then the order of valid reasonning for bieng on my system goes as follows (from good reason, to not much of a reason)
Windows 2000
Linux Mandrake 7.0 (also have good reason for it)
finally BeOS 5 (hoping that it will become more compatible with my computer equipment shortly in the future)

this ='s my 0.02$ worth

Frankfurt

[dZeus]

Recently I read on the register that in Windows ME there still is lots of legacy code, but MS just has hidden it, so you won't notice it being there, unless you do a thorough search for it.

Although The Register always posts some false stories, lots of their stories are at least in some degree right.

[Buuri]

there still is lots of legacy code, but MS just has hidden it

Yes, it would be quite extraordinary if something The Register reported could be backed up with solid proof, like "that GIZMO.SYS is exactly the same as with Windows 2.0". Now it's only convinient that it can't be checked..
Somehow people tend to believe all the rumours about Microsoft. Like the other day my collegue came to me with the fact that WinMe has no netwoking what so ever. I have no idea where he got the idea from (probably IRC, the useless distributed database of false knowledge) but he was so convinced it was true and never even bothered to check it out.
I hope you get my point that's so cleverly hidden somewhere there..

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[Jorden]

As a matter of fact, I don't have to buy, purchase or otherwise "acquire" either Win2k or WinME as it will be supplied to me, by me new boss

Since I do use DOS for some utilities, like a real good MOD/XM-player&editor, I hope WinME will have some DOS.EXE in a CAB file.

Nice abbreviation... WinME... WinMe

Where do we enter to win it, Paul?

Jord.

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"What goes in, must come out..."

[Himself]

How much 16 bit is in there can probably be seen using System Information under 16 bit modules. Well what gets loaded at any rate.

This is Win98:

KERNEL 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows Kernel core component C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\KRNL386.EXE 4.3 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
SYSTEM 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows System Driver core component C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\system.drv 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
KEYBOARD 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows Keyboard Driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\keyboard.drv 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
MOUSE 9.01.0.000 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft Pointing Device Driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\mouse.drv 4.0 Microsoft® Pointing Device Software
DISPLAY 4.12.01.0576 3dfx Interactive, Inc. 3dfx Interactive Voodoo3® Series display driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\3dfx16v3.drv 4.0 Voodoo3® DirectX for Windows® 95 and Windows® 98
DIBENG 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows 98 DIB Engine C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\DIBENG.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
SOUND 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows Sound Driver core component C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\mmsound.drv 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
COMM 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows COMM Driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\comm.drv 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
GDI 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows Graphics Device Interface core component C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\gdi.exe 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
USER 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows User-interface core component C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\user.exe 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
DDEML 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation DDE Management library C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\DDEML.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
MSPLUS 4.40.500 Microsoft Corporation Cool stuff for Windows C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\COOL.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Plus! for Windows(R)
MSGSRV32 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows 32-bit VxD Message Server C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\MSGSRV32.EXE 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
MMSYSTEM 4.03.1998 Microsoft Corporation System APIs for Multimedia C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\mmsystem.dll 4.0 Microsoft Windows
POWER 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Advanced Power Management driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\power.drv 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
LZEXPAND 4.00.429 Microsoft Corporation LZExpand Libraries C:\WIN98\SYSBCKUP\LZEXPAND.DLL 4.0 Microsoft® Windows(TM) Operating System
VER 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Version Checking and File Installation Libraries C:\WIN98\SYSBCKUP\VER.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
SHELL 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows Shell library C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\SHELL.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
COMMCTRL 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Custom Controls Library C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\COMMCTRL.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
CTMM16 4.06.652 Creative Technology Ltd. Creative Wave/Aux/Mixer/MidiPort Driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\ctmm16.drv 4.0 Creative Audio Products
CTWT16 4.06.630 Creative Technology Ltd. Creative Advanced WavEffects MIDI Driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\ctwt16.drv 4.0 Creative Advanced WavEffects
CTSYN16 4.06.603 Creative Technology Ltd. Creative Software Synthesizer Driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\ctsyn16.drv 4.0 Creative Software Synthesizer
MSACMMAP 4.03.1998 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft Sound Mapper C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\msacm.drv 4.0 Microsoft Windows
MSACM 4.03.1998 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft Audio Compression Manager C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\MSACM.DLL 4.0 Microsoft Windows
MMTASK 4.03.1998 Microsoft Corporation Multimedia background task support module C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\mmtask.tsk 4.0 Microsoft Windows
MIDIMAP 4.03.1998 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft MIDI Mapper C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\midimap.drv 4.0 Microsoft Windows
MSJSTICK 4.05.01.1998 Microsoft Corporation Joystick driver for IBM-compatibles C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\msjstick.drv 4.0 Microsoft® DirectX for Windows® 98
COMMDLG 4.00.950 Microsoft Corporation Common Dialogs libraries C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\COMMDLG.DLL 4.0 Microsoft® Windows® Operating System
DDRAW16 4.07.00.0700 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft DirectDraw C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\DDRAW16.DLL 4.0 Microsoft® DirectX for Windows® 95 and 98
TOOLHELP 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows Debug/Tool helper library C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\TOOLHELP.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
SYSTHUNK 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Windows System Thunk Library C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\SYSTHUNK.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
OLECLI 1.20.000 Microsoft Corporation Object Linking and Embedding Client Library C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\OLECLI.DLL 4.0 Microsoft Object Linking and Embedding Libraries for Windows
OLESVR 1.10.000 Microsoft Corporation Object Linking and Embedding Server Library C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\OLESVR.DLL 4.0 Microsoft Object Linking and Embedding Libraries for Windows
PIFMGR 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Program Information File (PIF) Management Services C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\PIFMGR.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
ESCP2MS 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation ESC/P2 printer driver C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\ESCP2MS.drv 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System
UNIDRV 4.10.1998 Microsoft Corporation Microsoft Universal printer driver library C:\WIN98\SYSTEM\UNIDRV.DLL 4.0 Microsoft(R) Windows(R) Operating System


[This message has been edited by Himself (edited 23 June 2000).]

[The PIT]

Sure you haven't missed anything there?