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  • #16
    I now fear for MATROX-

    My first PC had a Orchid card in it (hey I got Win1.x FREE with the board/Whoo Hoo Win on 2 160k floppies; needed a 3rd for the included apps)

    No idea what was in my 1st (and so far only notebook); just don't remember.

    My first 486 came with a Chips & Technology chipset and a ATI video board (they may not be dead, but would YOU buy one? And lets not forget their drivers ).

    Another 486 I bought for work had a Cirrus video chip on the motherboard (wasn't going to pay much for a work computer).

    Built my Pentium system with a Matrox MillII(Then added a M3D ).

    What started life as my first self built Pentium II system had a Matrox G200 (still in use in my daughter's PC ); nowPIII and G400MAX.

    Another now PIII (for gameing) started
    with a Canopus TNT; then a (real) Hercules TNT2Ultra; now an other (realy other) Hercules GF2.

    Finally a video box, with a Matrox G400DH.

    So as you can see not a good sign all those companies that are no longer with us (in BOLD); versus the still with us (in italics). Yes, ATI is both for the above stated reasoning; Apples and mobiles, seem to be there only remaining strong holds.

    As, for Matrox; well, I hope they get their act together and give us a new card that really wows us! Or there fate may be seald. This is a very unforgiving time in this markette, any misstep can be very hard to recover from and more then possibly fatal!

    Go Matrox I'm rooting for you not to enter my companies in BOLD !!

    Mark F.

    PS. Why after all this time do cards still default to the OAK Tech drivers in Windows? Haven't they been gone long enough to assume a card isn't one of theirs?

    pps. opps, thanx Ian !
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    OH NO, my retractable cup holder swallowed a DVD...
    and burped out a movie


    [This message has been edited by Mark F (edited 22 August 2000).]
    Mark F. (A+, Network+, & CCNA)
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    OH NO, my retractable cup holder swallowed a DVD...
    and burped out a movie

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    • #17
      Speaking of Oak Technologies, wasn´t the Millenium I detected as a Oak Technologies card in the original Win95 setup? Or was just with me that happened?

      [This message has been edited by Nuno (edited 21 August 2000).]

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      • #18
        Why after all this time do cards still default to the OAK Tech drivers in Windows? Haven't they been gone long enough to assume a card isn't one of theirs?

        LOL! You noticed that too huh?!

        ATI actually has a few other strangleholds though. Open up any random(recent) Compaq, Dell, Gateway, IBM, or HP server and you will 90% of the time(thats a random statistic BTW, I just know it's some large number ) discover an ATI Rage IIc. Also, most companies have a cheap line of mass produced, everything integrated onto the mobo, buisness PC's(ie. Dell Optiplex). Unless you specifically request something different, most will contain a Rage Pro or some variant thereof.

        Much as we might wish otherwise, I don't think ATI is going to die anytime soon.

        Go Matrox I'm rooting for you not to enter my companies in BOLD !!

        Heh they already did apparently. (you might want to edit that )

        Ian
        Primary System:
        MSI 745 Ultra, AMD 2400+ XP, 1024 MB Crucial PC2100 DDR SDRAM, Sapphire Radeon 9800 Pro, 3Com 3c905C NIC,
        120GB Seagate UDMA 100 HD, 60 GB Seagate UDMA 100 HD, Pioneer DVD 105S, BenQ 12x24x40 CDRW, SB Audigy OEM,
        Win XP, MS Intellimouse Optical, 17" Mag 720v2
        Seccondary System:
        Epox 7KXA BIOS 5/22, Athlon 650, 512 MB Crucial 7E PC133 SDRAM, Hercules Prophet 4500 Kyro II, SBLive Value,
        3Com 3c905B-TX NIC, 40 GB IBM UDMA 100 HD, 45X Acer CD-ROM,
        Win XP, MS Wheel Mouse Optical, 15" POS Monitor
        Tertiary system
        Offbrand PII Mobo, PII 350, 256MB PC100 SDRAM, 15GB UDMA66 7200RPM Maxtor HD, USRobotics 10/100 NIC, RedHat Linux 8.0
        Camera: Canon 10D DSLR, Canon 100-400L f4.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon 100 Macro USM Canon 28-135 f3.5-5.6 IS USM, Canon Speedlite 200E, tripod, bag, etc.

        "Any sufficiently advanced technology will be indistinguishable from magic." --Arthur C. Clarke

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        • #19
          I recall reading that ATI lost a substantial portion of Dell's business (I assume after the Rage 128 debacle). I know Dell is still using ATI graphics adapters in laptops, but I think a lot of Dell's business has gone to NVIDIA and maybe even Matrox.

          I believe ATI's biggest OEM customer is Apple, and the last I heard, Steve Jobs was really mad at them.

          Paul
          paulcs@flashcom.net

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          • #20
            What about SIS. They use to make the best chipsets in the industry for 8088s up to about 386s or 486s

            One of the cheap computers at work has a 8 Mb AGP SiS card in it, and it seems to work (its the phone tracker pc, so no games on it)

            They also have good Linux support.

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            • #21
              Sucks in games, though.

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              "I wish I was a witch...
              ...to shove my broomstick right up your *ss."

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              • #22
                I was just looking at the Dell lineup for home and business.

                The home computers default ("subtract $30") to an ATI Rage Pro something or other. All the other possibilities are NVidia from a TNT2 to a 64 MB GTS.

                The business computers have every brand of card imaginable (including a MAX) available.

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