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  • #16
    Queens... Coming to America anyone?

    I'm glad I was on the other side. Coming from America, but she still has a lot to dream about. Haarlem (isn't Harlem one of the poorest sites in NYC?) Holly? Just tell me why, and I will consider

    Or it must be that you want me and my brother to live in one city again? (Bwurk!)

    Jord.

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    This cat, is cat, a cat, very cat, good cat, way cat, to cat, keep cat, a cat, fool cat, like cat, you cat, busy cat! Now read the previous sentence without the word cat...
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    • #17
      What's the advantage of becoming a neutralised Dutch citizen? Hell, I am not even Dutch!

      Ah... I know: it's the stupid residence permit.... let met tell you this story that I've been told by the Dutch police:

      on my 18th birthday, they told me that I could get Dutch nationality without any extra costs, but officially your not allowed to have both British and Dutch nationality, so I refused (although they probably won't bother ever to check if you comply to this). So they told me that I could either pay 500 guilders for a permanent residence permit, or get one for free every time I get a new passport (mine last about 5 years). I told them that I wouldn't mind getting one every 5 years. So I asked my father what his residence permit is... it's the permanent one, but he needs to get a new one every 5 years anyway, because of some stupid Dutch law that exists because 'people's faces can change fast' so that the photograph on it is still up to date. So practically there's no difference between the permanent one and the temporary one. If you ever get the choice between these two, choose the temporary one!

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      • #18
        She escaped from Bush jr. the brainless just in time... wise move...
        Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.

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        • #19
          <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jorden:
          Kaj, wat doe je het weekend voor de 7de maart? We houden dan maar het verjaardagsfeestje voor Holly. Je bent bij deze uitgenodigd
          Jord.
          </font>
          Thanks for the invitation; als je het niet erg vindt, kom ik liever het weekend erna o.i.d. I'm the type of guy like that song from Jona Lewie: "You'll always find me in the kitchen at parties" Not a real partyanimal, so to speak.
          The path I walk alone is endlessly long.<br>It's 30 minutes by bike, 15 by bus.<br><i><font size="1">Puni puni poemi</font></i>

          Anime worth watching:
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          • #20
            Jorden - I bet you haven't told Holly about the Dutch law concerning new residents. There is a law stating that the new residents are required to spend one day practicing putting their fingers in a dyke.

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            • #21
              I won't touch that with a ten foot pole!
              "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

              "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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              • #22
                <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">There is a law stating that the new residents are required to spend one day practicing putting their fingers in a dyke.</font>
                OK, I can do that.

                Wouldn't be the first time....

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                Holly, woman of mystery

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                • #23
                  LOL

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                  • #24
                    Kaj, het probleempje daarvan is: we zijn uitgenodigd om een netwerk feestje bij te wonen, het weekend erna. Dus vieren we het het weekend ervoor

                    Maar zelfs het weekend erna ben je uitgenodigd

                    Jord&Holly
                    Jordâ„¢

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                    • #25
                      Shame on you Jord...

                      For pointing me to this thread so late in it's development.

                      Sorry Holly...I've been very busy with work and private concerns, but BEST wishes, of course.

                      You're amazing.

                      BTW Sonya says "HI, and be careful of keeping your finger in the dyke for longer than 10 hours...could cause problems."

                      (still can't get her "on the record" but we're working on it)
                      Greebe's juiced up Athlon @750 on an MSI Irongate Based M/B Marvel G200 TV with HW/DVD Daughtercard,
                      CDBurner, Creative DVD, two big WD Hdds, Outboard 56K modem
                      Parallel Port Scanner, Creative S/B AWE 64 (ISA), and a new Logitech WebCam (My first USB device)

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                      • #26
                        Boy, I bit cyber-tongue very hard to avoid making any comments about plugging dykes.

                        <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by HollyBerri:
                        So I'll tell you what it's like to be Dutch once they've finished remodelling me, but I think it's going to hurt me in my braincells.</font>
                        I hear the footwear can be pretty rough as well.

                        QUEENS!! Well, it could of been worse. It could have been Staten Island.

                        I've actually lived in Manhattan, "Breukelen," and <cough> Queens.

                        Where did you go to high school. Not Forest Hills, I hope. I hated those kids.

                        It would be funny if you moved to Haarlem. I can see it now:

                        Live from the Apollo Schouwburgin in Haarlem, Grandmeister Jord and the Verwoed Vijf!!!

                        If that joke doesn't date my old school butt, nothing will. And I probably threw in enough machine translated Dutch to guarantee no one will get it.

                        Paul
                        paulcs@flashcom.net

                        [This message has been edited by paulcs (edited 10 February 2001).]

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                        • #27
                          [i]It takes two to make the thing go ri-ight, It takes a finger to plug the dyke


                          Wooo!
                          Yeah!


                          [This message has been edited by Wombat (edited 10 February 2001).]
                          Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                          • #28
                            <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Live from the Apollo Schouwburgin in Haarlem, Grandmeister Jord and the Verwoed Vijf!!!</font>
                            Say Paul, you weren't off that far
                            Though I know Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, the translation doesn't go that good with whatver Babelfish you used

                            It would be more like Grootmeester Jord en de Verwoede Vijf !!
                            And we would be playing in the Haarlem Schouwburg, if they would still have one
                            I just wonder who the other 4 would be

                            The Rest? I leave that to my ante

                            Rob... Think about an end [/i] somewhere

                            Jord.


                            [This message has been edited by Jorden (edited 10 February 2001).]
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                            • #29
                              no, paulcs, it doesn't date you... they still play that song on the radio here. But I bet no one much remembers that it was the first rap 12-inch... back when rap was about friendly rhyming competition, and not guns and 'hos.

                              I went to Jamaica HS, which was not in Forest Hills, but was full of interesting JAPs (Jewish-American Princesses for you outlanders) and even many regular people who I managed to mingle with. It was a pretty OK place, actually, but no preparation for the hideous shark-tank of Princeton U. Or even for living in New Jersey, for that matter.

                              And you're right about Staten Island.

                              Thanks, Tim!!!! Tell Sonya I'll be very, very careful... should I happen to find a dyke....

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                              • #30
                                I mistranslated Grandmaster intentionally, making up an English-German hybrid, in hopes that someone other than you and Holly would get the reference. It's a rather arcane joke, aimed at New Yorkers living in the Netherlands.

                                When I was in grade school, I believe in the fourth grade, history lessons were devoted exclusively to New York State's. We spent a fair bit of time on New Netherlands and New Amsterdam. Most of the English occupation was skipped over until right before the Revolution.

                                As an adult, I learned the English, smart people that they were, decided to maintain much of the New Amsterdam status quo. Dutch settlers were not asked to leave and they didn't. Business continued to be conducted the way it was under the Dutch. Many people became very, very rich, and New York City would become the economic center of the United States.

                                But the Dutch influence in New York goes deeper than that. I've read late 17th and 18th Century contemporary accounts of what visitors from England and the other colonies thought about colonial New Yorkers. They found New Yorkers, to put it delicately, a bit different than the rest of the colonists. All of these stereotypes exist today.

                                I think Holly should write a series of articles for the New Yorker about her return to the Mothership. It's kind of a devolution, if you think about it.

                                Paul
                                paulcs@flashcom.net

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