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  • #16
    Just found this:

    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">The PowerPoint presentation that has been circulating the Internet was an
    tool created for the NVIDIA sales team. It was created to help position our
    products against competitive offerings, as well as to educate and motivate
    our sales staff. It was never intended for public viewing or distribution.

    Brian Burke
    Senior PR Manager
    NVIDIA Corp.</font>
    In case you're wondering, this is the 'motherthread' http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/noncgi...ML/002473.html

    "That's right fool! Now I'm a flying talking donkey!"

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    • #17
      AZ:

      ok, here are just _some_ things they did:

      they 'ordered' sites to give them very positive reviews, and competitors negative results, otherwise they wouldn't get any more preview samples of their future videocards, ever.

      they also have very strict logo stuff that hardware sites have to keep to, which means they can't put other manufacturers logos on the frontpage of their site, etc...

      they 'obtained' quite some hardware engineers from Matrox... what those were working on is not clear to me.. only that there were 2 lawsuits by Matrox: one against their former employees, and one against nVidia.

      they bought out 3Dfx when that company was on the verge of winning a lawsuit that would cost nVidia muchos dollars

      GDI bypassing anyone?

      and you could go on and on and on and on...

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      • #18
        That's pretty bad manners

        Just a side note: Asus puts pressure on web sites too - which is why i don't want to buy another product from them...


        AZ
        There's an Opera in my macbook.

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        • #19
          i have read about 10 minutes ago nvidia has confirmed this statement. it has been an internal paper and not for communitiy.

          IT IS NO FAKE !

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          • #20
            WTF? Educate their sales staff? Telling them to LIE to their customers would be the right term... It's time nVidia gets into some trouble for behaving like this but sadly, I can't see this happen (yet...)

            AZ

            <FONT COLOR="#CCCCCC">NVIDIA EAT SHIT!</FONT>
            There's an Opera in my macbook.

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            • #21
              Nvidia never ceases to amaze me. I would have expected a far more professional presentation from such a company (even for internal distribution only), rather than this one which I've already said I feel is of the caliber of a 15 year old.

              And the best way to be educated a sales team is for them to understand the good AND the bad aspects of your product and the competitions products. But I'm sure Nvidia already knew that.....

              b
              Why do today what you can put off until tomorrow? But why put off until tomorrow what you can put off altogether?

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              • #22
                Man, that pdf is the most stupid thing I saw on the computer hardware scene in ages. Nvidia´s PR/sales must think that their client have an average IQ below 50.

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                • #23
                  I'm not surprised at all, I've seen this happen too often before. I had a very similar paper myself not-so-long ago when a BIG (much bigger than ATI and NVidia together) company was doing the same creating such "confidential" / "internal use only" papers with direct comparision (that is, of course, only listing the minuses of the competitor and the pluses of the own product) "for education of their sales staff" and actually even leaking those documents to potential customers...
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                  • #24
                    I´m thinking again about it, and I remembered about the pharmaceutical industry propaganda. You don´t even imagine the silly arguments their sales people have to persuade us to prescribe medicin X from company Y...

                    I guess those pharmaceutical sales people also get brainwashed with that kind of presentations too...

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                    • #25
                      Nuno, you're close. This "incident" I spoke about was actually in the medical sector...
                      And, btw. this document was at least as silly as the NVidia one. The real purpose of these "internal" docs is to show them to a potential customer (that normally doesn't know things that well) and impress them with it. If it goes public you can always say: "hey this is a paper for internal use only, we don't know how it got out..."

                      [This message has been edited by Indiana (edited 05 April 2001).]
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