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  • #16
    <font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Jammrock:
    Please email me if you would like to contribute to the "Jammrock needs new toys" fund. </font>
    Get any contributors yet?
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    • #17
      Lemme think...

      I can play PC-like games...

      On my TV...

      At crappy low resolution...

      On last year's cool hardware...

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

      No.

      - Gurm

      P.S. Six months tops before there is a windows .dll addon that lets you play Xbox games on your nicer hardware.

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      • #18
        Gurm, the 8-bit console era ended a long time ago.
        Someday, we'll look back on this, laugh nervously and change the subject.

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        • #19
          impact,

          I'm not sure what you mean by that. I am simply pointing out that the X-Box is a poor man's gaming computer. It uses a mid-range CPU (700-ish mhz, if memory serves me), a mid-range graphics card (GF2 quality from nVidia), has a fixed amount of memory and HDD (32 or 64, and 6 gb or some such), and outputs to your TV.

          All the games will be poor imitations of games available for the PC. And those that are developed specifically for the XBox will most likely be playable on the PC with a minimum of workaround coding. Hence my prediction that it only take a few months for someone to hack together a couple DLL's that will let you play Xbox games on, say, my machine (Dual P3-933, 640MB RAM, 200GB HDD, Kyro2).

          - Gurm

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          Listen up, you primitive screwheads! See this? This is my BOOMSTICK! Etc. etc.
          The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

          I'm the least you could do
          If only life were as easy as you
          I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
          If only life were as easy as you
          I would still get screwed

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          • #20
            AFAIK the graphics chip in the gamebox is supposed to be quite a bit more powerful than the Geforce3.
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            • #21
              Not quite a bit more powerful...

              A bit.

              Its all because of an extra T/L unit to help offload more programmable effects allowing for quicker rendering of complex scenes.

              If you threw an extra T/L unit on the GF3 you would achive the same performance (AFAIK )

              Can anybody say GF3 Pro/Ultra

              Lamers (Nvidia that is)

              Of course at the same time they will bring out the GF3 MX 200/400 with a quarter/half of a programmable T/L unit respectivly
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              • #22
                The X-Box does have some things going for it. The bus width on the inside is astounding. They didn't have to resort to PCI or AGP, and they've got a really wide data bus to that nVidia chip.

                Also, on the software side, MS is really giving it a boost. Gurm may be right about the .DLL to have X-box games on PC, but the games will usually use DirectX. And MS is writing a DX specific to the X-box. The API will be DirectX, but MS will be tweaking the hardware interface so that DirectX gets very close to the hardware, very integrated into the drivers.
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                • #23
                  The point is software.
                  Look at the minimum hardware requirements of current titles. 8-16Mb video card, Pentium 233... oh oh... omg...
                  When a publisher comes to game developer he wants to sell a game to as broad audience as possible, even if it won't have state-of-the-art graphics on low-end computers. So developer has to play around with all kinds of hardware = spend more money, get more programmers etc.

                  I strongly recommend you look at xbox presentation video (for example at www.gamespot.com )

                  Oh, and I don't think I'll be getting xbox. Maybe ps2 with keyboard, mouse, hard drive and linux. But most probably I won't buy anything. 10 hours of programming is enough.
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