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  • #46
    DS:9 was interesting. Took a while to get going, and I wasn't so fond of the entire season they spent aboard a tiny little ship and NOT on the station, but hey you can't win 'em all. But it wasn't exciting so much as it was ... "interesting".

    Voyager sucked donkey nuts. Whether or not you like Jeri Ryan in skintight spandex (I don't - whether or not she has the body of a venus she has the face of a MAN, MAN!) you have to admit that the show, while it had promise, SUCKED.

    I mean, I honestly thought that the days of shows where a twist of fate at the very end of the episode kept the people stranded/marooned/stuck/going every single bloody time were OVER. This isn't Gilligan's Island, this isn't "Lost in Space", it's Star Trek.

    I mean, c'mon - at LEAST a dozen times, Captain Kurt (err... sorry... Capt. Kate!) passed up a perfectly good opportunity to get home. "No, we must save <race x> from their natural enemies!" WTF happened to the prime directive? "No, we promised we wouldn't use that." THAT was the episode that clinched it for me. The aliens said "well, we have technology that would send you home, and we won't stop you from using it, but we'd really prefer it if you didn't..." and the dumb b***h says "oh, ok we won't".

    They booted the most interesting characters off the show, never developed the most interesting potential relationships or subplots, and basically just wrote the damn thing into oblivion. I stopped caring after the first season, and stopped watching after the second.

    Things they should have followed up on, and/or never mentioned:

    1. Voyager is a living ship, right? Great. Pre-farscape. Only problem? They gave it a cold once, first season, and then never mentioned it again. Oopsie!

    2. Vulcans have amazing mental powers that nobody ever knew about before. Yeah, ok.

    3. Babies. ONE episode, second season, Capt. Johnway (err... Janeway, sorry I have a hard time remembering it's a girl) wrestles with the fact that if they're stuck out in space people might pair off and *gasp* screw. And that this pairing and *gasp* screwing might in fact lead to *gasp* babies! Then it was never mentioned again. (Sense a trend yet?)

    Then, just when everyone is beginning to COMPLETELY not care about the show, they bring in a post-op transsexual (sorry, Jeri fans - I just can't look at that square jaw and that well-defined adam's apple without thinking it) in a tight suit.

    *sigh*

    I loved the original Star Trek, honestly I did. But let's face it - it wasn't exactly GOOD sci-fi. It had gigantic floating Abraham Lincoln heads, for crying out loud! But it set a standard.

    TNG blew away that standard. 8 seasons, all of which were quite good. Memorable characters. I can't even remember the entire voyager crew, and the only people I remember from DS:9 are Quarg and Odo.

    *shrug*

    Hey, it's all my opinion.

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    • #47
      Damn!
      We always get left out here.
      You know they never showed any of the episodes here?
      I had to see the whole lot on download.
      I have satellite, english sat, and i can watch some of the Eps there, but all very 'late'.
      I saw some of the DS9, and it was good when the war kicked off.
      Voyager ... uh left that off nearly 2 years ago.
      TNG...got into it real late, and out of it real early. only saw the odd episode.
      So this is the first series i will have seen from the start.
      And i am enjoying it.
      I love the way they have to 'discover' everything again, like teleporters and stuff.
      Scott Bakula is also very good as captain, he fits the post.

      I am not a Hard-Core trekkie, i just enjoy watching it (and defending it when some arse slaggs it off in preference for Pokemon or something equally as sh**e and incomprehensible.)

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      • #48
        Can't you pick up Sky one? We have Enterprise running currently at 8:00PM on a Monday, repeated some time on a Sunday.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Gurm


          Voyager sucked donkey nuts. Whether or not you like Jeri Ryan in skintight spandex (I don't - whether or not she has the body of a venus she has the face of a MAN, MAN!) you have to admit that the show, while it had promise, SUCKED.

          ...

          Then, just when everyone is beginning to COMPLETELY not care about the show, they bring in a post-op transsexual (sorry, Jeri fans - I just can't look at that square jaw and that well-defined adam's apple without thinking it) in a tight suit.

          I agree totally. Voyager was so full of dyke-ish women and wussified men that it seems to be engineered that way. I'm surprised Robert Beltran's character didn't put a bullet in his own head by the end of the first season. But it IS an interesting parable of how badly the dykes would screw things up if they WERE in charge.

          BTW, found this spy photo taken in Janeway's cabin which tells the dirty truth.

          (not safe for work.. )

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          • #50
            Not exactly what I envisioned of a sonic shower
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            • #51
              You just know a guy would have said "to hell with the prime directive", loaded up all weapons and got out of there in episode #1

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              • #52
                Hmmm, don't watch this new Enterprise that much....

                Just saw an ep today where a Klingon ship was being pulled into a Class 9 Gas Giant. The Enterprise shuttle was able to dock with it quite easily. HTF is this possible? Oh, suspension of disbelief. and why was a Klingon able to easily do what that Klingon did to their shuttle? Security anyone? Different language? Geesh.
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                • #53
                  Originally posted by Dr Mordrid
                  You just know a guy would have said "to hell with the prime directive", loaded up all weapons and got out of there in episode #1

                  Dr. Mordrid
                  Yeah, and it never would have been a series.....

                  Anyway the guns first/use every measure aproach have been depicted in the VG series:

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by KvHagedorn

                    I agree totally. Voyager was so full of dyke-ish women and wussified men that it seems to be engineered that way. I'm surprised Robert Beltran's character didn't put a bullet in his own head by the end of the first season. But it IS an interesting parable of how badly the dykes would screw things up if they WERE in charge.

                    BTW, found this spy photo taken in Janeway's cabin which tells the dirty truth.

                    (not safe for work.. )
                    You mean you guys were looking at her face?
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by DosFreak
                      Hmmm, don't watch this new Enterprise that much....

                      Just saw an ep today where a Klingon ship was being pulled into a Class 9 Gas Giant. The Enterprise shuttle was able to dock with it quite easily. HTF is this possible? Oh, suspension of disbelief. and why was a Klingon able to easily do what that Klingon did to their shuttle? Security anyone? Different language? Geesh.

                      its just a tv show...
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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by RichL


                        You mean you guys were looking at her face?
                        well.. i'm not bi.. and i wasnt even looking at their faces. ha
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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Lizzard[MPE]



                          its just a tv show...
                          I'm with you there! I wish people could just take it for what it is... Don't get me wrong. I have seen most episodes and I think it's great. But is is just a show.

                          Picking at all the plot inconsistencies means that I am thinking about it too much!

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                          • #58
                            Originally posted by Ant
                            Can't you pick up Sky one? We have Enterprise running currently at 8:00PM on a Monday, repeated some time on a Sunday.
                            My parents get it, but they spend their time watching Animal hospital and Changing Rooms and stuff like that.
                            I would rather go and sit in the garden under the rain....

                            or watch the eps on my computer when they come out..
                            lower quality, but better atmosphere.
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