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  • Why do so many hate America?

    I can't speak for other about this issue but it is important; America has many enemies. Why is that?

    What is it about Americans that could provoke such hatred? Sweden was not bombed, Canada was not bombed, Portugal was not bombed...if this crazy terrorism will ever stop, America needs to answer this question honestly anout itself.

    A personal note though, I used to be very sympathetic for the USA in the past but even though I consider myself a non-political person I do understand why people around the world are not surprised this happened, or are even upset.

    For 73 days the United States bombed Yugoslavia. Partisans from this country during WWII rescued US pilots who fell behing NAzi lines, Yugoslavia was an ally. Fast forward 50 yesrs and Yugoslavs men women and children are being killed by US weapons dropped from 20 000 feet in an illegal war. What was the crime of those children and women? The Yugoslav gov't was trying to destroy the KLA terrorists in Kosovo in a very brutal little conflict. The KLA are muslim extremist terrorists - even the CIA said so. But regardless of the irony of America dropping bombs on Yugoslavia for killing terrorists and there supporters; the fact is American people shed no tears for the suffering that befell the Serbs. Most Americans did not even question it - and that was wrong. America destroyed a historical ally in Yugoslavia, especially in it's fight against muslim extremists.

    It is precisely for this kind of thoughtless military action that so many people have problems with America - be it from the Cuban perspective, the Vitetnamese perspective, the Palestinian perspective, the Sandanista perspective, etc. America must change the way it deals with "small" countries and "small" people or the threat of terrorism will never end. You cannot build walls high enough to stop them all, but you can change US foreign policy to be more receptive, and most importantly stop the high handed self-rigthous importance many Americans feel they deserve. We are all human beings, and the action of those arabs and what motivated them on the plane must be analyzed and talked about openly or it will reoccur.

    In the 50s the CIA sponsored a coup in Iran that succeeded in placing the Shah in power, effectively making him a puppet of big US oil and the CIA. The Shah however was a very very brutal fellow whose actions provided the basis of muslim fundamentalis to be revived and it swept the Ayatollah to power 20 years later. Remember the Ayatollah?

    In the Iran-Iraq War the US supplied Hussein with a ton of military support and trained his soldiers with the best CIA toys there were. In the Russian invasion of Afghanistan in 1979/80 the US trained Mujahadeen guerrillas (including Osama Bid Ladin) to fight in very dirty ways against the Russians.

    In many ways US created the monster that came home last Tuesday, and I find it startling that when people are talking on TV today they ask the same questions: Why us? How could did this happen? Well it happened partly because the US supplied these crazies at one time when it suited US interest (aka US big business) and now they turned our training onto us. The illegal bombing of countries like Yugoslavia does not help either - that just makes a bunch of non-muslims less sympathetic to US tragedies.

    This is the kind of discussion that needs to occur to fix this so it never ever happens again, but I am afraid that a lot poeple are just not ready to hear it More people just want to retaliate with force and weapons. Unfortunately this strategy has failed in Israel's approach to their problesm, it only has made it more terrible.

    Banning people, stop discussion based on a difference of opinion only fuel the animosity. Why can't we talk about this here as a start?

    best wished to all those hurt in the tragedy in the US.

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    Only one person has been banned from this forum, only one set of posts has been deleted by that person, repeated spams of the same insulting drivel. Those posts were cruel and inflammatory that is why they were deleted, that is why the moron was banned, I do not want that sort of person around here. Thousands of people have died, so they were Amercians, why the hell should that give anyone the right to mock and gloat about human death and suffering? I will not tolerate that sort of behaviour in these forums by ANYONE, no matter if it is Americans or Arabs that have died, is that clear?!

    It is NOT a question of banning freedom of speach it is a question of banning trouble makers. If that person really stood by what he posted then why didn't he have the courage to post under his own user account? Why did he have to hide behind a false ID and email address? Perhaps I should post that users details and real email address now, hows that for freedom of speach? I and I alone have closed several threads based around this tragedy when I felt passions were rising a little too high and it was best to shut them down there and then.

    If you do not like my policies go elsewhere. Remember I can see the posters IP number and trace it so I do know who people really are even if they register under different accounts or switch to another ISP.

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    • #3
      First of all.. Rexwoman, who are you and where are you from?

      To the points, Most Americans couldn't care less who rules in these middle eastern countries. Big Oil needs to redefine itself very quickly as Big Energy, and develop fuel cells and other alternatives to oil. Yes, this is a necessity that has been put off too long. Let's do it.

      To your points that we should try and "understand" those who hate us, no. This is exactly the type of feminine thought that makes us weak. There is no excusing hatred. If those of you who keep harping on this are stupid enough not to see this, and further cannot see that the feminizing of the male population in Europe and America is what has driven us to soullessness and weakness, and continue to put your selfish agenda above the strength and well-being of family and our people as a whole, then you are the enemy. I am sick and tired of selfish women who do not know their place. Your love and understanding seems to be directed only at your enemies, and not your families. Indeed, you disdain having children because you are too self centered to be bothered with it. As a whole, women now are a bunch of traitors and their heads are too far up their asses to realize it. Women and men both have their places in society, and it's past time for us to grow up and realize this. Stop trying to be head of the household.. your role is different but no less important. Pave the way to the future by raising respectful, healthy, decent children. Have some respect for your husbands. Most women just make me sick, the way they behave now.

      Though you may be a Serbian and as such, a descendant of the Serbian terrorism that touched off World War I which, in turn, touched off World War II, I don't hate you. If Serbia was behind such terrorism today, I would dedicate myself to wiping it out, not because I hate Serbs, but because it simply must be done.
      Last edited by KvHagedorn; 14 September 2001, 03:23.

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      • #4
        Ant,

        What about those ".. cruel and inflammatory.. " posts, the most flammatory poster is KvHagedorn by far.

        Some quote's..

        "Arabs, Pakistanis, and Turks have no place in Europe nor in America. We do not want your dirty, camel stealing culture here. Get out."

        "..how does one distinguish a civilian from a soldier in a terrorist state where children are armed and taught to hate and kill Americans, and prey upon and mock our sense of fairness and decency at every turn?"

        "Well, let me enlighten you, you lowlife towelhead.. the swelling numbers of muslims who have invaded Western Europe and America desecrate our sacred homeland. If our western society had not been sissified by our own women and their overbearing, misplaced liberalism, this invasion, as it is more truthfully called, would not likely have taken place. I call on all Europeans and Americans to reclaim their manhood and eject these unclean invaders from our sacred homelands. "

        Guessing the one that he suggest that US kills every man, child and woman is "edited", but i can clearly remember that one. Nuking the "Nonfriendly" countries was the "only option" according to this fanatic.

        I can understand that people are angry, but dont think this kind of racism is the answer. Maybe over 1000 post gives him to flame away, but just try to calm this guy a bit.

        PeTe

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        • #5
          OK fine then there will be no more threads allowed on this subject in these forums.

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