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  • #61
    Look, here's the trouble - the militant Islamics hate EVERYONE that isn't Islamic. It's pretty simple.

    And the non-militant Islamics, while they don't "condone" that point of view, also feel an obligation or kinship with the militant Islamics... and therefore won't police them.

    That leaves us with two options.

    1. Partition off the middle east. Don't let anyone in or out. Let them have their sacred muslim state... of course this also cuts off our negotiations and dealings with the inside, with Israel, with Egypt, with all of our allies in the area.

    2. Piss them off. Because you must understand - there is no way NOT to piss off militant Islamics. Our very existence pisses them off, and if they have to look at us they start wanting to kill us.

    It has NOTHING to do with the US's foreign policy. It has NOTHING to do with choices we've made. It has EVERYTHING to do with their desire to kill anyone that is different from them, and our unwillingness to hide and keep out of their sight.

    - Gurm
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    • #62
      I'm going solve this war. I'm going to have a little chat with bin laden I'm going to give a white dove and we are going to agree too peace.
      Shit he's got his mate to fill me full of holes he said something about infidel I don't understand what it is.
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      • #63
        Here's my $.02

        Remeber that OBL has stated we ALL are targets for his faction. That means women,children,elderly etc.. We have only made the distinction between military and civilian targets in wartime in the last 40 years due to technological advances. Only supporters surround OBL and his groups, so there are no civilians surrounding him as far as I am concerned.

        It takes VERY expensive munitions to target a single builing as opposed to "carpet bombing" done in WW2/Korea/Vietnam. Should we expose our military to the risks involved with targeting a single site instead of safely bombing from high altitudes the snot out of whole regions where OBL is hiding?

        Food for thought.......



        Damn extremists
        Better to let one think you are a fool, than speak and prove it


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        • #64
          Re: Here's my $.02

          Originally posted by Dilitante1
          Remeber that OBL has stated we ALL are targets for his faction. That means women,children,elderly etc.. We have only made the distinction between military and civilian targets in wartime in the last 40 years due to technological advances. Only supporters surround OBL and his groups, so there are no civilians surrounding him as far as I am concerned.

          It takes VERY expensive munitions to target a single builing as opposed to "carpet bombing" done in WW2/Korea/Vietnam. Should we expose our military to the risks involved with targeting a single site instead of safely bombing from high altitudes the snot out of whole regions where OBL is hiding?

          Food for thought.......



          Damn extremists

          I like what you say, but we cant lower ourselfs to his level because that makes us almost as bad as him...I wouldnt mind turning Afghansain into a glass parking lot myself....

          Scott
          Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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          • #65
            Speaking of FOOD......

            Why not just drop the pallets of rations from 35,000 ft without the parachutes

            I have this hangup about feeding them while we bomb them, as you can tell.

            Besides the Taliban is Stealing most of the Food from the Afghan people who really need it. Which really shows how the Taliban and "bin Lubin the Goat" think of their fellow moslems.

            What's todays Special?????

            Oh!! No!! Not the Potato and Bean Vinegarette Rations again!!

            Are we dropping "Happy Meals" or the "Chicken McNuggets" today.

            Paul
            "Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself"

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            • #66
              <A HREF="http://www.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2001/10/17/205238.shtml" target=_new>Why Israel Is in the Crosshairs for Destruction </A>

              Joel
              Last edited by Joel; 18 October 2001, 10:56.
              Libertarian is still the way to go if we truly want a real change.

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              • #67
                The Taliban have stolen enougth food to keep themselfs fed for a month. But they care about their people honest guv they do.

                Joel you link doesn't work by the way.
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                • #68
                  Try this one...

                  Why Israel Is in the Crosshairs for Destruction
                  "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                  "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                  • #69
                    Maybe the US should purposefully put Anthrax in the food and 'accidentally' drop it near Taliban forces, where there is little to no civilian population

                    Jammrock
                    “Inside every sane person there’s a madman struggling to get out”
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                    • #70
                      Damn extremists
                      There are many extremists in this thread also, though they pass themselves for patriots.

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Rags

                        Translated:
                        "Oh well, back to playing with myself while watching WWF."

                        Rags

                        hmmmm not here in the library..................

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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Greebe
                          Try this one...

                          Why Israel Is in the Crosshairs for Destruction
                          This was written by this guy:

                          Wilson C. Lucom is president of Worldwide Voters Organized to End War. He served in the State Department under President Franklin Roosevelt. His website is www.endwar.com

                          damn this guy is F***ing old! Roosevelts adminstration ended in what 1945? Thats 56 years ago!

                          Scott
                          Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Joel

                            I have questions for you though. In the entire history of the US name me one war that we started? And civil war doesn't count. Now name me the wars that we didnt' start but helped to end once we were asked to help? And after all those other wars who was the biggest contributor to the reconstruction of the war torn countries? And some of this was even before we were number one.

                            Joel
                            Right or wrong, we did start the Spanish-American War. And the Navy didn't buy the Maine business then and they don't buy it now.

                            Paul
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                            • #74
                              I have questions for you though. In the entire history of the US name me one war that we started? And civil war doesn't count. Now name me the wars that we didnt' start but helped to end once we were asked to help? And after all those other wars who was the biggest contributor to the reconstruction of the war torn countries? And some of this was even before we were number one.

                              Well, we got our ass handed to us in the War of 1812. We declared war, tried to take Canada, and ended up losing more men and having DC burned to the ground. Guess you forgot that one. You can't really dispute the results.

                              Once we were stronger, we assaulted Panama and took what we needed to build the Canal. Why? We wanted it. Part of our long tradition as bullies. In the words of our very own President, "I took Panama and let Congress debate that while I went ahead and built the canal."

                              Viet Nam? We never <I>declared</I> war, but we spent enough time and lives there. We weren't wanted, and didn't make a difference. The Vietnamese still have a national holiday when they celebrate the defeat of the Americans.


                              As for WWII, it wouldn't have been so hard for the Allies to win if America hadn't been funding the German economy for so long. "Gee, all these nice cheap clothes, goods, and cars. I won't ask where they came from."

                              Iran-Contra? Bay of Pigs? Here we quietly funded people who could be considered little more than mercenaries for our own ends, and then tried to hush things up when it failed.

                              Ooo, ooo, how about the infamous "War on Drugs"? Now there's a bullshit concept. Looks like we're losing that too.
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                              • #75
                                However thats still no excuse for people in the world wanting Israel and the west blown off the face of the world. If we keep this policy you did wrong in the past we'll be fighting for ever until someone decides either wide spread Nuclear war or Gentic or bio chemical war is a good idea and wipes us all out.
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