Joel's Islam questions answered

[Gurm]

Matrox_angry_mustafa:

as a jew, eh?

Yup. It's how I was born, it's the last name I have. It's not something I've chosen, unlike the absurdist watered-down viewpoint you have of your "religion".

so you are trying to pick a fight?

No, you were (and are). As follows:

i say **** israel. okay?

I say "go on and try". Y'all did. Three times. And failed. Oopsie!

when i saw on tv, when the president of israel saying that the attack on the towers was the fault of all muslims, how do you think i felt? huh?

I dunno. Probably about the same as when your so-called "leaders" said that the attack was the fault of the Israeli secret service... which happens to be something BELIEVED by 90+% of the Arab world. (According to Gallup opinion polls. Margin of error +/- 5%) How ****** up is that?

now **** off, i don't have time for your ********.

Sure you do. You're a mini. Your sole reason for coming in here and posting was to stir up trouble in a month-old thread about Islam. You've done your job and successfully propagandized. Fastest growing religion? Yeah, among the disenfranchised and weak-minded.

and bud, i know more about what is right, than you know about yourself!

I'm not sure what this means, but I kind of highly doubt it. TRUST me on this one. You can't win this argument.

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GT98:

I meant cash. The billions of dollars everyone bitches about.

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RedRed:

Both sides of any conflict use American weapons if they can get them. The fact that Israel is seen as an extension of US influence in the region is due to the fact that they are our only REAL ally in the region. No matter what Lebanon or Syria or Egypt might say, they would turn on us in a heartbeat if they felt it was to their advantage. That's not an alliance - that's a truce. C'mon, haven't any of you played Civ?

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eftychios:

I realize that jews have a long history in the region but that does not give them the right to go an displace ppl that have lived there for hundred of years.

*ahem* There were no people officially "living there". There were a few outlying settlements of Arabs from various countries (Jordan, Syria, Egypt) and a few Mosques. Palestine wasn't a country at that point. (It still isn't!) The land was essentially unclaimed, as it had been since the crusaders "liberated" it. (Let's not get into THAT argument!)

The fact is that Israel has an occupying force in land which it has no majority in the population.

The FACT is that the world council (aka United Nations) recognizes the sovereignty of Israel. It does not recognize Palestine as anything more than a collection of terrorists and their families, unwanted in any other Arab nation.

Israel is altering the demographic status in the region by building setlements in the occupied areas and putting in immigrant jews.

*ahem* It's THEIR LAND. They can put whoever the hell they want there, because THEY OWN THE LAND. If the federal government of the United States decides to relocate a bunch of people from California to Texas, the only thing stopping them is their own laws.

I am sorry but this exact behavior is going on in my country by Turkey and I do not consider this to be right.

The difference, of course, is that you have an actual country. The Palestinians have a catchphrase coined AFTER I was born (I consider anything that happened after I was born to be part of modern history... a quarter century ain't a lot of time) and nothing more.

The fact is that israel is violating the human rights of the people leaving in that area.

I assume you meant "living". The FACT is that those people are squatters... allowed to be there by the good nature of the Israeli government, and the fact that running them out of the country would be somewhat inhumane, and eliminating them isn't really an option (although the past couple of weeks might provide a good excuse).

I am not supporting terrorist acts, what I understand is the need of the palestinians for freedomn.

Great, let them petition the world for their OWN land...

Maybe the palestinian state/nationality came to be after 1975 as you state, but that does not change the fact that Israel is an occupying force and is suppressing the rights of the ppl living there.

*sigh* Let me explain it slowly. If you have a million Arabs and cluster them in France, the French aren't an "occupying force". They're THE GOVERNMENT because it's THEIR COUNTRY.

How much more slowly do I have to go over this?

- Gurm

[matrox_anger_me]

excuse me GURM.
can you point out even ONE time that Iran wanted to attack israel, and would lose? Iran alone could **** you up the ***!!! okay? another thing, you are extremely racist, calling all people of the muslim faith, what was that again? oh yes, "disenfranchised and weak-minded". you know why states wont help out israel right now? because they know they'll have every arab and muslim and smart nation after them. another thing, because of you, my viewpoint on how not to look at people based on what their governments do, is starting to change. you act very much like that terrorist of a president you have. i am not going to bother replying to any more of your posts. you are obviously a very disturbed racist man. I hope, that as a sign of their intelligence, no one will reply to any more of your posts about this topic.

so, PLEASE. NO ONE REPLY TO ANYMORE OF GURM's POSTS.
HE IS A RACIST AND SAD LITTLE MAN. IF YOU REPLY TO HIS THREAD, YOU ARE JUST WASTING YOUR TIME, BECAUSE HE WILL JUST TAKE A ****, AND POP OUT A WHOLE OTHER LOAD OF THE GARBAGE HE'S BEEN FED. BE AWARE, DO NOT REPLY FOR YOUR, AND HIS OWN GOOD! thanks.

[matrox_anger_me]

OKAY THAT'S IT, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS GUY. BAN HIM!!!!

[Helevitia]

Originally posted by matrox_anger_me
OKAY THAT'S IT, I'VE HAD ENOUGH OF THIS GUY. BAN HIM!!!!

I hope you are talking about yourself.

[Wombat]

Aye, another vote for banning matrox_anger_me.

[Dr Mordrid]

Most of the Palestinians problems are of their own making.

IF their leadership had accepted Barak's last offer (which gave them 98% of their stated goals) they could now be on their way to an independent State, complete with UN and US help for reconstruction.

Instead they turned their backs and started another round of attacks on civilians.

IMHO what they get now is EXACTLY what they deserve.

Dr. Mordrid

[Joel]

Ok, enough is enough. There was absolutely no reason for this thread to be brought back up except to pick a fight which it did. I can't ban anyone but I can close this thread. And please don't start another one.

Joel