David Blunkett faces off rebellion over new anti terrorist laws.

[The PIT]

Funny how quickly people forget Sep 11th. It seems like some MP's like us harbouring and ignoring terrorists.

[ZokesPro]

People will never forget September 11th, I think most are just trying to move on.

[Lizzard[MPE]]

Even britney spears didn't forget in her concert tonight..

[RichL]

I cant find the link on the BBC News page anymore, but I think the sticking point was the 'Detainment without charge' section.
While its all very nice and a good idea to be able to detain Jonny Terrorist, (who everyone knows damn well is a evil b*stard they just havent got enough hard evidence on to put him in jail,) but such a law can easily be used to detail Jonny Innocent, who isnt a terrorist but is someone who, basically, the government doesnt like the face of and sticking him in a cell for a few years would make their life easier.

Normally I dont have much time for the civil liberties crowd, as I only ever hear about them when they're complaining about measures that I see as being only a hinderance to criminals, but in this case I personally think they have a point.

One thing I did hear about this was a 'Sunset' clause, that meant the Internment bill had to be voted back into force every five or so years, which is probably a good idea.

[RedRed]

I have pretty strong views on internment (but then thats me! ). There can be no justification for holding someone because they are a 'problem' for the state. If they have done no wrong in your country, and you won't or can't extradite them to a second country, then tough! If you have no evidence or are not willing to share your evidence or your evidence is too weak to stand up to investigation, then TOUGH - the guys gotta walk....


The sunset clause is bunkum.... once on the statute books, it is difficult to shake off.... the Northern Ireland anti terrorism bill (which allowed internment in Northern Ireland, (it was done here twice)) was here from the early 1970's - 1998, and it was renewed bi anually (i think, possibly annually)



Some intresting links: (British and US)

http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,48443,00.html
http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,47901,00.html http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,47051,00.html


http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_...00/1668126.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_...00/1599363.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_...00/1649628.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/hi/english/uk_...00/1663829.stm

regards
RedRed

[The PIT]

Yes theres a problem with the law being abused and theres should be a set period where evidance has got to be collected. I think that law already is in place. The law is also strengthed so that you won't find yourself waking up next door to someone whos killed two hundred people becuase of their race or nationality.
I don't know if they're altering the law about not deporting a known terrorist because they may face the death penatly. That should be removed. The USA want us to deport one man suspected of being involved in the Sep 11th attacks. We won't because he may face the death penalty.