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  • #16
    LOL Novdid! good call. No I use the Omega Drivers based on 7202 ATI drivers, ver 1.3.06 I'll change that post-haste. Or is that post-post as it were.
    AMD XP2100+, 512megs DDR333, ATI Radeon 8500, some other stuff.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by KvHagedorn
      Ever notice that the people who like Windows XP are always insiders who didn't have to go through the product activation?
      Sorry.. Forgot to mention that I'm not related to Microsoft in any way.
      My laptop runs XP-home at this moment (with WPA), and I agree with you that the WPA isn't a shining example of customerfriendlyness (sp?) (understatement of the year), but all it takes is 3 minutes of your time.
      Cracking the thing takes longer, and I think that the stability of XP is more important than something that takes place maybe once a year.

      Hanging on to your principles is good, but you can take it too seriously.
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Kaj

        Cracking the thing takes longer, and I think that the stability of XP is more important than something that takes place maybe once a year.
        Then you should try w2k, linux or BEOS!
        According to the latest official figures, 43% of all statistics are totally worthless...

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Guru


          Then you should try w2k, linux or BEOS!
          Win2k didn't cooperate with my ADSL and my DVD-software. Win98SE did, but was unstable.
          I'm testing and practising SuSE Linux right now on a spare PC, but as long as I can't do under Linux what I'm doing under the Windows-platform, I see no reason to migrate.
          I didn't try BeOS yet, but as long as my ADSL-modem doesn't function under BeOS (didn't run into good drivers yet for BeOS), I see no reason to migrate.
          The path I walk alone is endlessly long.<br>It's 30 minutes by bike, 15 by bus.<br><i><font size="1">Puni puni poemi</font></i>

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Bohrn
            LOL Novdid! good call. No I use the Omega Drivers based on 7202 ATI drivers, ver 1.3.06 I'll change that post-haste. Or is that post-post as it were.
            I thought you pulled something from your hat...

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            • #21
              Then you should try w2k, linux or BEOS!
              w2k: Less stable than XP. What? Yes, you heard right. Properly configured, XP is more stable AND more secure than Win2k. uPnP vulnerability? Try TURNING THE DAMN SERVICE OFF. I agree that it ships with lots of icky stuff turned on, but 5 minutes in the service control panel fixes all that and trims the OS down nicely to boot.

              Linux: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

              BeOS: [font size=5]HAHAHAHAHAHA- URK![/font]

              Oh my dear God, don't make me laugh that hard - it hurts!

              BeOS is useless, and will continue to be so until someone writes some software for it. For a lesson in this, please see OS/2.

              As for Linux, it has never been, is not, and will never be a desktop operating system. Period. The people making it don't WANT it to be friendly enough for the average Joe to use it, and that's that.

              - Gurm
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              If only life were as easy as you
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              If only life were as easy as you
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              • #22
                Oh my god, it must be Christmas.
                I 100% agree with a Gurm posting

                Merry Christmas Gurm.
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                • #23
                  I've found XP to be incredibly unstable, on this same system Win 2K is incredibly stable. I simply cannot work out what the problem is. Biggest culprit is playback of AVI or MPEG video, no matter what the file is at some point during playback the system explodes, I get a momentary flash of a BSOD then the system reboots. How the hell can a supposedly modern OS allow anything to do that?? This same thing happens seemingly randomly at others times doing various things, installing a program, playing a WAV file etc etc. The thing has 1 gig of RAM and yet I get incredible slow downs and disk thrashing, sure I use a lot of heavy weight programs at the same time but that really should not be a problem to a real OS.

                  I cannot believe that I still cannot find a modern stable OS, Linux I like but it is a very long way off being a useable desktop OS. I had big hopes for BeOS, great operating system, but sadly that has died a death. I'm being sorely tempted by OS X from the reviews of latest releases, shame about the cost of the hardware to run it

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                  • #24
                    I'm being sorely tempted by OS X from the reviews of latest releases, shame about the cost of the hardware to run it
                    If Steve Jobs had some brain cells left, he would get a version of OSX out that would run on X86 processors. He did it with NExT 486. Why not now? Oh yeah.. NExT died.. well just be a software company then.. Who cares anyhow, SJ.. you're rich as hell and it would drive Bill Gates nuts. Do it!

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                    • #25
                      Don't you know?
                      Bill Gates owns Steve Jobs....
                      Or rather, Diden't Gates pour a lot of millions into Apple a couple of years ago?
                      If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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                      • #26
                        I think Guru, Ant etc. just about covered. As for the problems with security, several networking types on the net have been hollering about since before the first pubic beta.

                        Of course back then all Microsoft would do is flame and call them idiots instead of fessing up and fixing the damn problems to start with.

                        As for those problems being fixable by turning off services....I thought one of the main stated purposes of XP was to make it easy to use for home or non-techie users. How many of them even know what turning off a service means, or should even be allowed anywhere near that portion of the control panel?

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                        • #27
                          Ant - Microsoft can't keep people from writing shitty sound card drivers, which is most likely what your problem is. Happened to me a lot when I had a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz. Or video drivers.

                          - Gurm
                          The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

                          I'm the least you could do
                          If only life were as easy as you
                          I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                          If only life were as easy as you
                          I would still get screwed

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                          • #28
                            XP runs fine on my (crappy?) KT7. The ATi TV Wonder (to qoute a certain unnamed poster) does drop frames faster than a tart drops her knickers at the start of a capture but then I'm not doing any serious capturing. Seems stable enuf with the 512 MB of Kingston ValueRAM. I even have a crappy winmodem which connects to my ISP at no slower than 49333kbps, but mostly at 50666 with occasional 52000 and 53333 connections. (Ok so we have excellent phone lines) I do everything I did in win2k and prefer the feel of XP. If I want to go faster I go into performance and make sure only "Use drop shadows for icon labels" , "Smooth edges of screen fonts" , and "Use visual styles in windows and menus" are checked. I like transparent icon label backgrounds, ClearType and certain visual styles. Style XP is a must have free proggie. That being said, if I had to activate WinXP I'd never buy it. I still haven't installed OfficeXP for that reason. I had no interest in WinXP until there was a version not requiring activation. Gurm is right in that the Linux people aren't that interested in making Linux an excellent desktop platform. The potential is there though. BeOS is a better operating system than XP in theory but in practice it died of lack of software support

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