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  • #61
    Campaign finance reform bill passed the Senate 60-40. Dissenters are saying they will take it to court. Dissenters are saying they will take it to court.
    Do you know of any sites where they have a list of those that voted NO???

    Joel
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    • #62
      Check the Senate first. http://www.senate.gov/legislative/le...all_today.html

      There you go.
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      • #63
        A list can be found here: http://www.senate.gov/legislative/le...all_today.html

        Dang Wombat beat me by a minute!

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        • #64
          Ha! I beat you!
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          • #65
            Wha huh?

            Originally posted by Wombat
            Campaign finance reform bill passed the Senate 60-40. Dissenters are saying they will take it to court.
            You can take a Senate vote to court?

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            • #66
              Not the vote. They plan on contesting the Constitutionality of the law. In some ways I can see where they're coming from, saying that it's a restriction on speech. But at the same time, I can't see how they're doing anything but arguing to keep bribery legal.
              Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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              • #67
                Re: In to the fry again!

                Not to change the subject...

                Originally posted by Technoid
                That often happens on Win9x systems to
                That's my point. Most home users do no multi-tasking to speak of.
                So it doesn't make any difference to them whether what crashes is the app they are using or the OS.
                It's all the same to them.

                Originally posted by Technoid
                From no knowledge scratch its not harder to learn Linux than WinXp or macosx!!
                In the case of Linux this is simply not true.
                You do not have to know how to administer anything to use word & e-mail in a 9x box.
                It just isn't that simple in Linux.

                And until they get rid of -single in linux, your computer needs to be in a vault to be any more secure than 9x, let alone Nt, 2K or XP.

                chuck
                Last edited by cjolley; 21 March 2002, 08:55.
                Chuck
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                • #68
                  Re: Re: In to the fry again!

                  Originally posted by cjolley
                  Not to change the subject...


                  In the case of Linux this is simply not true.
                  You do not have to know how to administer anything to use word & e-mail in a 9x box.
                  It just isn't that simple in Linux.
                  I should have been more precise:
                  As in: pre configured systems!!

                  Besides I installed RH 5 once when it was new and I did use staroffice and netscape without knowing a bit about administratin.....


                  And until they get rid of -single in linux, your computer needs to be in a vault to be any more secure than 9x, let alone Nt, 2K or XP.

                  chuck
                  ??????????
                  If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

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                  • #69
                    Re: Re: Re: In to the fry again!

                    Originally posted by Technoid
                    ...As in: pre configured systems!!...
                    Suppose they want to add trip planning software, for instance?
                    The other day I wanted to know how far it was from OKC to Seattle.
                    So, I slipped in an old MS Trip Planner CD, it auto installed & off I went.
                    Even if I could find such software for Linux, I wouldn't know how to get it installed so both my wife & I could both use it.
                    People just souldn't need to be network admin types to install and run apps on thier home PC.

                    Originally posted by Technoid
                    ??????????
                    Unless thing have changed recently, the Linux kernel can be started with the "-single " commandline switch and it's about as secure as DOS 3.3
                    Most distributions allow you to change command lines on boot. So, if someone can get to the reset switch and the keyboard, no files in the box are secure.
                    Chuck
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                    • #70
                      If you can physically get to <I>ANY</I> machine, then it isn't secure, regardless of operating system.

                      But, you can do things like use a boot loader that doesn't allow -single. But if you go that far, then you've already done all the OS-neutral things too, I hope: Locking the computer case, setting passwords on the BIOS, forcing the boot device.....
                      Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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                      • #71
                        We have an air lock with electronic passkey doors and video.
                        Not to mention the seperate air conditioning, Halon system, 24 hr capacity UPS, and emergency generators
                        chuck
                        Chuck
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                        • #72
                          Received this joke today in my mail-box.

                          Q: Why do Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer always smile on Windows promo pictures?

                          A: Because they know the incredible joke that it is!
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by KeiFront
                            Received this joke today in my mail-box.

                            Q: Why do Bill Gates and Steve Ballmer always smile on Windows promo pictures?

                            A: Because they know the incredible joke that it is!
                            This sort of thing contituted the bulk of a three week night class
                            we took on Linux recently.
                            Reminded me of the old mens room wall joke:
                            "Why are you looking up here when the joke is in your hand?"
                            chuck
                            Chuck
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