Duke Nukem 3D

[leech]

Originally posted by Wombat
Ahh, found some stuff. It's going to be tricky, but I've started working on it:
http://www.computing.net/windowsxp/w...rum/33637.html

I got up to the point of the Nuke symbol but then it locked. I was playing around with getting the sound working, not much success though.

Leech

[DosFreak]

Http://vogons.zetafleet.com

[YngwieM]

Nice source, DosFreak...

But the question that comes to my mind is:

Is there any kind of DOS emulator for Win32 (NT/2000/XP)?? One emulator that you could just run above win32 and get your DOS games/programs running without any patches and so (just like WinAUE emuletes Amiga systems)?

[Drizzt]

YngwieM, it can sound a bit ridiculous, but with a friend we have found that the only way to emulate DOS under Win32 is...
WinUAE emulating an Amiga that emulate a DOS machine!

[YngwieM]

Perhaps that'd be possible!... or even with a MacOS emulator...

[UtwigMU]

Why not getting a 2nd hand P200MMX/32/3GB/Vodoo1/AWE64 1337 DOS boxen for 100-200$ and putting it on KVM?

Or dedicating 1GB of your HDD to MS DOS 6.22 with Windows 95 or 98 or w/o windows FAT partition. WinNT, 2K and XP all allow you to dualboot.

OldSchool games accesed hardware and 3D features in an uncommon way so it's going to be hard to emulate a PC with all different hardware and quirks associated with it.

YngwieM
Your secondary boxen looks just right for dual/tri/quadbooting with dos. G400 even has DOS drivers.

[Wombat]

Because the fun of the game is playing it online, so I'd still have to figure out how to get all the networking issues worked out.

[SteveC]

Anyone tried Duke Nukem - The Manhatten Project? What is the point of that game!??!? Why not devote all resources into finally getting Duke Nukem Forever out?

[VJ]

You could try http://www.vmware.com
This emulates a PC, on which you can install any OS. (although some MS-DOS memory managers seem to cause problems). Performance is quite good (don't know how Duke Nukem will run though).

Jörg

[YngwieM]

Originally posted by UtwigMU
YngwieM
Your secondary boxen looks just right for dual/tri/quadbooting with dos. G400 even has DOS drivers.

Yeah, I even has a P3 450 with a G200 @ home (wich is with my brother) - I think I'll follow your advice - it's the easiest and perhaps the most "stable-wise" thing to do.

But... still the most desirable thing is an "all in one box", just like I already do with M.A.M.E., WinAUE, SNES9x, Genesis emulator, and so on. And like Wombat said, playing some of this games in multiplayer, using somehow the actual state of connectiveness (ADSL, cable, etc), it would be pretty cool...

[Liquid Snake]

I never got Duke3D to work here in Win2K. The game would lock up before it finished loading. I tried Virtual PC, but I could only run 320x200. And it ran pretty slow (20fps I think). Scitech Display Doctor didn't help get the VESA modes working. I've heard that VMWare is supposed to be faster than Virtual PC, but is it faster in this situation (for old DOS games)? I also tried it on my Celeron machine with the Millennium I but I didn't get VESA modes working on that machine either

[DosFreak]

For DOS gaming VPC is faster than Vmware...but it seems that VPC 5 is less compatible than VPC 4 is for DOS. I've talked with Eric Traut (VPC developer) and since they've moved over to a newer emulated chipset (440bx instead of fx) and made some other changes they've been focusing primarily on speed. Hopefully they'll focus more on compatibility and fix some of the DOS issues that have cropped up in VPC 5.

VPC 5 is still better for DOS gaming than Vmware however. Also try DosBox (it won't run DOS4GW games ...games like Duke3D) but it's EXCELLENT for 286 and below games.

As for my experiences with Duke3d. On my Athlon 2000+ it plays in 800X600 but the MIDI is crappy. Everything else is fine. You can play BUILD engine games fine in XP (using VDMSOUND) with full sound but unfortunately no VESA.....don't expect a fix anytime soon either....emulation seems to be the way to go for this route. Just keep your eyes glued to the DosBox page and sometime.....in the future it may get DOS4GW and VESA support.

[leech]

http://www.icculus.org/BUILD/

Check that out. Build engine ported to linux

Don't know if that'll do ya any good, but it's worth a shot.

Leech

Edit: There is a win32 port as well

[DosFreak]

http://www.connectix.com/cgi-bin/ubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=24;t=000222