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  • #16
    If you're looking for somone acceptable and reliable to replace Sadam once he's gone and there's no good option, I'll accpet the responsibility.

    Better stop shaving, such moustache takes time to grow...

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dogbert
      If you're looking for somone acceptable and reliable to replace Sadam once he's gone and there's no good option, I'll accpet the responsibility.

      Better stop shaving, such moustache takes time to grow...
      You said acceptable right?

      I think we should take a vote on that!
      Titanium is the new bling!
      (you heard from me first!)

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      • #18
        gee.. With Dogbert up for elections, again, i think i would stick to chaos.... .. but on a serious not I really, really hope that they get that F***er and not the civilians who do not have to die... and don’t go about saying that if they are innocent then they should have revolted against him... things are not that simple in the Arab world.. the Arabs people are subdued and brainwashed by their leaders.... I also really.. really hope that we here at Lebanon don’t "accidentally" get caught in the cross fire.. Hezbollah are not the majority of the people of Lebanon and the situation here at the present time is very volatile... i am afraid that a new civil war is soon underway.... our leaders have become too corrupt to care for the people and they are squabbling for power... and who gets it up their A**es ... the people who have nothing to do with any of this BullSh** ...... things are looking mighty bad.. the shit will hit the fan...

        IMO screw all the leaders of the Arab world and of the non Arab world too... no one ever cares about the innocent civilians that die for the "greater cause" .... someone should get all those leaders together give every one of them a gun and lock them up inside a large hanger..... let them kill themselves up while we live at peace and harmony and more spending in education than the military..... god.. if only the leaders listen... spend more money on education and the media .... if they did that we (of the Arab world) would not be in this mess right now... no suicide bombers... no religious disputes... and probably true peace with Israel...
        Dogbert: i think you would agree with me that this whole thing has become tiresome indeed.....

        people believe me when I tell you that the more i see the f***ing ignorance around me the more i wish someone would shoot me in the head and end my miserable existence....

        together with my friends we fought a corrupt university administration... we where a group of 20... then we became 3... 3 because the others betrayed us.. betrayed us 3 because they did not know it was their right to speak out and became to frightened when they where threatened.... that is the epitome of the ignorance that exists here ... people are thought to be useless and worthless from birth.... why oh why did my parents not immigrate a long time ago.. and why oh why did i not die during the civil war, although i came close several times...

        I stand guilty of being an idealist
        "They say that dreams are real only as long as they last. Couldn't you say the same thing about life?"

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        • #19
          Originally posted by SpiralDragon
          .. someone should get all those leaders together give every one of them a gun and lock them up inside a large hanger..... let them kill themselves up
          Hey, can anyone here make UT skins ???
          It could be cool playin with skins of Sadam, GB, Blair etc.

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          • #20
            ...don't give up yet SD. Lebanon and it's people were so beautiful, and will be again. We used to call it the Switzerland of the Middle East. You got caught in the middle of this whole mess, some left, some stayed. If you are going to stay, lift your spirits, for god's sake! Being so down won't help anybody, least of all yourself. If you want to leave, then find a way. Of course it isn't easy, but so what?
            How can you possibly take anything seriously?
            Who cares?

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            • #21
              Hey Doc, what is up with you? I generally had you down as someone with more restraint. Do you feel that another war is justified because if you do then your government is giving you far more evidence for action than HMG is giving me. So far all I have seen is politicians talk out of their arses.

              Regards Michael
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              • #22
                I havent seen anything much other than Tony Blech doing what GWB tells him to do. It seems to be a case of "We have to go to war because the Americans tell us we have to."
                Athlon XP-64/3200, 1gb PC3200, 512mb Radeon X1950Pro AGP, Dell 2005fwp, Logitech G5, IBM model M.

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                • #23
                  It seems to be a case of "We have to go to war because the Americans tell us we have to."
                  I bet you are glad though that the US didn't have that simular attitude when we were asked to help out during WWII and the advancment of Hitler's regime.

                  Joel
                  Libertarian is still the way to go if we truly want a real change.

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                  • #24
                    Joel
                    I bet you are glad though that the US didn't have that simular attitude when we were asked to help out during WWII and the advancment of Hitler's regime.
                    Thats a bit half arsed..... The US would not give full support to the war in Europe until it had also been attacked. It would have been the same level of support that it gave during WW1. (IE bugger all)...

                    War sucks big-time. Very few in the US have been on the recieving end. This is a week to remember those who where.

                    Dont live under any illusions. Those who have lost - or will loose -loved ones because of B52's will have at least as much hatred as those who lost loved ones to Al'queda. The US, military or civillian intrests are a bigger target than ANY terrorist organisation.

                    Moving against a target whose already had its military disected and pummelled into the 1930's is going to achieve nothing. Sure he may have chemical or biological weapons - he has no effective method of delivery (more than can be said for North Korea, China and Pakistan, India - other countries more likely to use these weapons against another country than Iraq). Invasion of Iraq poses no benefit to the US except to be seen to be doing something. As it stands - a farmer in north - or south - Iraq cant send his cattle out to graze without 10 f16s shooting them up!


                    Regards
                    RedRed
                    Dont just swallow the blue pill.

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                    • #25
                      He's baaack.

                      Joel
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                      • #26
                        and clueless as ever...

                        another forum member had a slight slam towards what Joel had posted also and then messaged me asking if he was to harsh. To which I replied with...

                        Just read that... Joel isn't saying that at all... he's saying that after WWI "the war to end all wars" the powers to be simply stuck their head in the sand and allowed Hitler to gain as much power as he did and we saw the result of that. If it weren't for the US joining up most likely all of Europe would have been speaking German by now.

                        Now if the leaders at the time had the forsight to nip him in the bud, just like what the US wants todo with Saddam there never would have been a problem of it's magnatude
                        With that said he deleted the post.


                        BTW as I have stated many times before, there are some topics that I do not participate in/ feel are totally inappropriate simply because you cannot convey exactly what was intended to be understood. This causes grief, tempers flare and in the end nobody learns from it because most threads must be locked.

                        Religon & Politics are the top two on my list of things that shouldn't be discussed.
                        "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                        "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                        • #27
                          To be sincere, politics IS a religion to many.

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                          • #28
                            That's why I included both
                            "Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter don't mind." -- Dr. Seuss

                            "Always do good. It will gratify some and astonish the rest." ~Mark Twain

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                            • #29
                              I never went away!

                              (anyone who knows of Mr Adams and the IRA will understand a significance to that)

                              Look at the time line of WWII. The US didnt really get involved (except for a few nods in Winstons general direction) until after Pearl Harbour. The US had just gone through a period of almost complete isolationism.

                              There is NO parallel. What you are saying is, in effect, that had Europe completely obliterated germany at the end of WWI, then Hitler would not have risen to prominence. Wrong. The treaty of Versailles and the gross miss-management of the German economy and the world crash of the 1920's prior to Hitlers rise created him. He promised Bread and Living Room.... and removal of the treaty conditions. (we have create um..... all 3 conditions there in Iraq, surrender, sanctions and a crippled economy....)

                              I am sorry if you have to take the piss out of my comments - the comments are free.
                              I have footage and seen peices of people being shovelled into bin-bags. Dont revel in thaughts of your country going to war with another until you have seen the same.

                              The US may well knock 7 bells out of Iraq (again) and install their own pet dictator (again), but where does it get us in the rest of the world? The US with another puppet, and a launchpad on Saudi arabia or Iran? no thanks
                              Last edited by RedRed; 12 September 2002, 09:21.
                              Dont just swallow the blue pill.

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                              • #30
                                I bet you are glad though that the US didn't have that simular attitude when we were asked to help out during WWII and the advancment of Hitler's regime.
                                Except we did plenty to advance Hitler ourselves. American business was perfectly content to profit from Germany's actions as long as he wasn't a threat to us. Gee, all these cheap German goods - but we never asked how they were made. Companies like IBM were plenty eager to make a buck, custom designing machines that helped the Final Solution run smoothly (check oug the history of Hollerith/Dehomag - the name of IBM Germany and/or <I>IBM and the Holocaust</I>). Hitler may have started the war machine, but we were happy to grease the wheels.
                                Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.

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