North Korea and Iran sleeping in the same bed ?

[efty]

Missiles do not have to carry nuclear bombs but they were made to kill people. The same for the first nuclear device which was not made to help humanity but to kill people again.

That said; I think that the progeny of those who otherwise would have died in a full scale invasion of the Japanese mainland are alive today says yes, the case could be made that ending the war early with nukes actually saved many lives and bloodlines in the long term.

In my book there is no excuse for what was done. And there is no excuse for all those nuclear tests conducted all over the world!!!Are all those to help humanity?

[GT98]

Originally posted by eftychios
In my book there is no excuse for what was done. And there is no excuse for all those nuclear tests conducted all over the world!!!Are all those to help humanity?

So you rather have wasted millions of lives in the Invasion of Japan that would have been both US and Japanese Lives? Sometimes things happen that are a nessary evil....can't live your life though rose colored glasses.

[Gurm]

Lefty,

The first "nuclear device" was set off by Fermi long before bombs were ever developed using the technology.

Learn your history.

Why do I keep telling you this? OVER and OVER.

- Gurm

[efty]

Gurm that was to demonstrate the principle. I hope you do comprehend the difference of principle and actual use. The fact remains that nuclear energy was developed as a weapon and not a source of energy.

[Gurm]

Says who?

Einstein intended for it to NEVER be used as a weapon.

Fermi was less concerned with its potential military applications, and more concerned with the underlying physics.

- Gurm

[efty]

Man what does Fermi or Einstein have to do all this? I was just pointing out that these so called "benevolent" technologies are initialy used as weapons and not as instruments to help humanity.

[Gurm]

You said that nuclear technology was DEVELOPED as a weapon.

I maintain that it was DEVELOPED as anything but, and REFINED as a weapon.

- Gurm

[Gurm]

And another post by Solid Mammaries bites the dust.

Ahh, active filtering.

- Gurm

[efty]

Let me repeat Fermi demonstrated the principle he did not develop the technology. The technology was developed as part, or at least a big portion of it, of the Manhattan project.

[Dogbert]

Wrong, the technology was developed by Einstein and if he didn't flee from Germany to the U.S, the Germans would have nuked a defenseless North America and GB.

Check your history books.

[Admiral]

I don't belive North Korea is suicidal enough to launch nuke missiles at the US or South Korea for that matter. The retaliatory factor of the US would be too great and stupid on their behalf not to consider.
What everyone's being paranoid here is them selling the nuke technlogy to arab countries. I don't belive any arab country would also be suicidal enough to launch nukes at Israel or US. Big brother US would nuke them out of existance.
Same thing goes for chemical weapons.
However, they might do so if attacked first as it is their only resort in the face of the crushing US war machine.

"Pocket" nukes and chemical weapons are a different matter. Such weapons might be used by terrorist supported by certain countries (Iraq and possibly Iran).
Then again they might just get one of them russian suitcase nukes off the black market, would that make Russia a terrorist supporting country ?
The Clinton administration called these countries "Rogue countries" and that's the name that suits them best. Now, why did Bush had to changed that to the propagandistic (BOOOOOOOO, scarry) "The Evil Axis" ?

[efty]

ok

edit: sorry but I cannot resist. Einstein was a theoretical Physicist. His research contributed however he was not the one that developed the technology.
I agree with Admiral.