Are rights something you take or receive ?

[Dogbert]

http://www.arabeuropean.org/aboutus.html

Responsibility: you do not receive equal rights, you take them.

[GNEP]

Historically, people have had to campaign for equal rights (ie take them)

Idealistically we should all receive them.

Gnep

[Dogbert]

I was always taught in school (especially when they wanted us to behave ) that responsibilities are to be taken so rights could be earned.
They loved to say that "no responsibilies = no rights".

[SpiralDragon]

thats true.... but but look at it this way.... women took responsibiliteis yet they where not given equal rights till they fought for it.....

[GNEP]

And the way I read the rights/responsibilities thing is this:

With rights come responsibilities. Therefore whether earned, received or taken, rights come with the responsibilities attached.

All in a very hypothetical manner of speaking of course.

[Dogbert]

Women !? Equal rights my A## !

Buy them flowers, open the door for them, take it to the extreme - never beat a girl.
They want equal rights ? Ok, let them start buying their own flowers, opening their own friggin doors and stop demanding to be treated as "ladies" cause once we're equal, this "lady" thing is over !

They cry that they don't have enough representatives in the Parliament ? Maybe once women start voting for women it'll change. After all, they are just a bit over 50% of the population.

Just to remind you all what happens when women (at last ?) do get the right to vote, check Iran.

[SpiralDragon]

the women i know are not that demanding

[Wombat]

Rights are not taken or recieved, they exist, and sometimes you have to defend them.

Privledges are debatable.