Poor Kyle still can't get over Parhelia Envy

[Technoid]

Originally posted by DGhost
hah, nice of you to call me that as this is seriously the only forum i post on (that is video card related).

But, a $100-$200 card provides just as much playability as my $400 Parhelia which has several defects that Matrox has chosen to ignore so far. So much for the legendary support, one of the reasons i bought the Parhelia.

Simple facts, yo. go re-read all my posts to see if i am an NVidiot or a Fanatic before labelling me as such.

Edit: bottom line is that gamers should avoid the card as they can get a better value elsewhere. professionals should avoid it because of the fact that Matrox is dropping the ball on several occasions. anything else i missed?

I'm sorry DGhost
I was not trying to imply that you WAS a Nvidiot or fanATIc, that was why I did not use those idionoms...

Just that you sounded like them a lot! (most of them are serious "FPSjunkies"

You'r absolutely right on that there is cheaper cards!

But the way they "perform" is verry subjective to the person who is using them!

FPS is not LIFE!!

And Kyle is probably the worst case of an FPS junkie that has ever laid eyes on a computer

[DGhost]

Perhaps. some of the things he has said over here on MURC tend to make me think that he is not. What Kyle is, however, is the owner of a Website that is aimed squarely at overclockers and hard core comptuer people. When you get a new piece of hardware, how exactly are you supposed to qualify "good" "better" "crap", etc., in a subjective manner. if you are not careful and don't do it in a subjective manner, you will be labeled as a fansite, as clueless, etc. When it comes to reviews, just saying that it is "smoother" doesn't cut it.

Not to make people think that i have gone soft or anything, kyle still bugs me with his attitude. I do still believe that he bashes things that he shouldn't. And he does take things a bit too far. I question his technical skills as much as the next.

[Chrono_Wanderer]

Originally posted by GT98
Hmm maybe I should send him mine since I got a Radeon 9700 off Ebay today

oo... no you don't. that nVidiot don't deserve a matrox product. give it 2 me!!!!! time to kick out my 8500...

[Wombat]

I'd rather have the 8500 at this point. At least ATI seems to support their products.

[DGhost]

ATI's support is questionable at times, but they are at least willing to fix the product and tell customers to RMA their boards... and they are willing to do it in a timely manner...

and unless you are running multiple monitors, there just isn't enough good about the Parhelia to balance out the bad... especially compared to the 8500...

whats funny is that without anti aliasing or ansio filtering, the 8500 i had performed better in GLQuake/Quake2/Quake3 than the Parhelia does... a lot better... gotta love having a "Professional" OpenGL ICD...

[Chrono_Wanderer]

Matrox has an amateur OpenGL ICD they never get the Stuff right.

we are not using multiple monitors/2D? come ON, we are Matrox Users running monitors @ 2048x1536

[The AngeL]

The HardOCP guys are really FPS-sick

[DGhost]

Originally posted by The AngeL
The HardOCP guys are really FPS-sick

a large amount of the following (ie, HardForums people) are insane like that...

one of the reasons i can't stand to read the forums, is that usually even the smart people are idiots...

[Chrono_Wanderer]

yup... that's why i love MURC ***group hug***

[redgreenbluex3]

For all those who payed a rediculious amount of money (like myself ) for parhelia and for those that didnt..............
wake up and smell the roses.
even at 30fps a sec
nothing beats surround gaming

[Chrono_Wanderer]

totally agree. human eyes do not support 60+fps (and some ppl maybe 40fps). so nVIDIOTS & fanatics like KYLE : upgrade/mod your eyes before getting a new piece of graphics hardware if all you care is frames!

if it's not the bugs on P i would have got out and brought a Parhelia.

[DGhost]

Bleh, there is a flip side to that arguement...

that being that if a card is only capable of running at 60fps max, you will notice it if the fps have sudden drops. if the card is at say, 180fps, a 50fps drop is almost unnoticable.

[Chrono_Wanderer]

i guess that make sense, and certain i agree with that. but most cards out there does drop a great deal anyways. so maybe fps cards should make the fps more stable first. that IMO should actually be what fps cards should aim for, not 10000fps in Q3. In fact, maybe they should actually focus at 40-60fps more consistantly, and also work on image quality. playing games that way is probably enjoyable