RN buys 2 new 50000 tonne Carriers but what a shoddy state of affairs

[mdhome]

It looks like the RN is getting back into the carrier business. 2 50000 tonne ships have been ordered for delivery commencing 2012. Oddly enough, of the 2 finalists, BAE and Thales, BAE have won but they will be building the loosers design! WTF! Whats even more ridiculous is that they will be building it in 3 sections instead of 5 as designed by Thales. Now this would be funny but BAE has managed to f**k up their last 2 major projects, The Astute class HK and the Nimrod ASW upgrade. This level of corruption beggars belief, I can see this project having more holes than a colender. Why the f**k cant we buy from the best after all they arent cheap. These buggers are costing the British taxpayers £1.5billion ($2.5 billion) each.

Sorry but I am miffed by what I see as corruption/incompetance/Cronieism etc

MD

[cjolley]

I'm shocked!
Socked I say!
To find that there is "corruption/incompetance/Cronieism" in military hardware acquisition!
Anywhere in the world!
chuck

[dZeus]

Re: RN buys 2 new 50000 tonne Carriers but what a shoddy state of affairs

Originally posted by mdhome
It looks like the RN is getting back into the carrier business. 2 50000 tonne ships have been ordered for delivery commencing 2012. Oddly enough, of the 2 finalists, BAE and Thales, BAE have won but they will be building the loosers design! WTF! Whats even more ridiculous is that they will be building it in 3 sections instead of 5 as designed by Thales. Now this would be funny but BAE has managed to f**k up their last 2 major projects, The Astute class HK and the Nimrod ASW upgrade. This level of corruption beggars belief, I can see this project having more holes than a colender. Why the f**k cant we buy from the best after all they arent cheap. These buggers are costing the British taxpayers £1.5billion ($2.5 billion) each.

Sorry but I am miffed by what I see as corruption/incompetance/Cronieism etc

MD

Thales even promised to build half of the amount of carriers on British soil as a guarantee for work there.

I guess that BAE had indeed some extra 'influence' as they would be in big financial troubles without this order.

[KvHagedorn]

Sounds like another R101 disaster in the making.. design by comittee.. will the British government never learn?

http://www.fairmile.fsbusiness.co.uk/zepbritiships.htm

[mdhome]

Unfortunately, in my eyes British politicians have always been bad at these sort of things. Its a shame the Nimitz class are too big, we could have bought 2 and had 100% industrial offsets from the US.

REgards MD

[William]

However a lot of the Bae stufff should happen in the Barrow area; with wealth spilling northwards into what is a poor, but (and less of a sure seat than previously) labour area. Me, cynical? Never.

[RedRed]

Belfast (Harland & Wolfe) has worked with both suppliers - and is putting in a bid. It has military certification up to, but excluding Subs & Nukes...

Apart form some refurb work - the order books are empty.....

What are the chances ? Dont think so!

RedRed