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  • #16
    I'd like to see you do 1280x960 32bit or above with CinePlayer on your primary Leo.
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    • #17
      Hey Indiana,

      Nice info on that registry tweak. Thanx!

      Leo: Theater mode does that on the ATI card.

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      • #18
        Well in 1280*960 video worked great on the g400max. Haven't tried cineplayer...

        Theater mode may do that but it only exist on the 6018 drivers and it didn't work very well.
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        • #19
          Look above, it's there not "only in the 6018" but at least SINCE the 6018 drivers (maybe these were only the first drivers to not have this setting hidden and it existed even before), it's just hidden in the newer drivers. Do the reg-setting and you'll get your theater mode in the newest drivers.

          It works great here, I've just tested it with my primary set to 1600x1200@85Hz and the secondary (a 15"TFT) to 1024x768@75Hz and the overlay was zoomed correctly to the 1024x768 display (not oversized & autoscrolling1600x1200) while the primary happily continued to display 1600x1200@85Hz at the same time.

          The only flaw is with DivX that have the black top&bottom borders cut off, they are stretched to the screens 4:3 not respecting the aspect ratio that's in the avi. Yes, this is annoying and I really hope they fix it soon (well maybe "I hope they fix it AT ALL" is more appropriate, we're talking of ATI here... )
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          • #20
            Woel,

            Please read preceding posts carefully before posting a new message. In those preceding messages you'll find that Indiana told us that you can re-enable the theater mode in any of the drivers through a registry setting and that it works quite well indeed, except for some 16:9 divx scaling issues.

            Your previous post was also already answered in the preceding posts, so it looks to me you're not really paying attention man...

            Just some friendly hints, no harm intended

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            Jorg

            Edit: Indiana beat me to it
            Last edited by Flip-Oh; 8 February 2002, 11:19.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by Indiana
              ...
              And to point number 2: You will get a virtual oversized&scrolling desktop, of course. How should it be done otherwise??? The TVOut only supports resolutions up to 1024x768 (and show me one card that does higher TVOut res), how would you manage to fit a 1600x1200 screen on that? You could simply limit the resolution to 1024x768 (which is how most other cards are doing it), and this is much worse. With the ATI you can still keep 1600x1200 on your primary with TV-Clone turned on. The Theater mode will give you a fullscreen nonscrolling display in this mode as well, so no worry here.
              ...
              well my G400 can output my desktop to tv at 1600x1200. If you will then reply to this with 'but PAL has much less definition than 1600x1200 so they'll throw away image information', then my response is: the same happens at 1024x768, so there's no difference in that aspect.

              Anyway, the whole idea about DVD-MAX is that you're not going to be limited on your primary desktop while outputting overlay to the secondary output (though you are somewhat, and on Gx50 cards the restriction worse than on G400 cards it seems).

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              • #22
                Originally posted by dZeus


                well my G400 can output my desktop to tv at 1600x1200. If you will then reply to this with 'but PAL has much less definition than 1600x1200 so they'll throw away image information', then my response is: the same happens at 1024x768, so there's no difference in that aspect.
                Must be a feature introduced in newer drivers, then. By the time I had my G400 installed, 1024x768 was the max resolution for the TVOut (anything higher doesn't really make sense, even the 1024x768 are much worse considering readability than 800x600).
                The main point is that you need to be able to run the TV and the CRT/TFT at different resolutions and refresh-rates - and you can perfectly do that with the Radeon.


                Anyway, the whole idea about DVD-MAX is that you're not going to be limited on your primary desktop while outputting overlay to the secondary output (though you are somewhat, and on Gx50 cards the restriction worse than on G400 cards it seems).
                Yes, this works fine as well. No problem having the overlay playing in a small window on your 1600x1200@85Hz CRT while having it zoomed fullscreen to the TV at 1024x768@50Hz (or to e.g. a 1024x768@70Hz TFT/second CRT). I've not tried higher resolutions, but I think the 64MB should give some room, here.
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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Indiana
                  ... No problem having the overlay playing in a small window on your 1600x1200@85Hz CRT while having it zoomed fullscreen to the TV at 1024x768@50Hz (or to e.g. a 1024x768@70Hz TFT/second CRT). ...
                  Is this true of both the 8500s and the 7500s? On which OSes ... Win98 and W2K?
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                  • #24
                    I don't know about the 7500 (I don't have one to test), but I think it should work with both.
                    As for OS-support AFAIK the theater button is in all the drivers for Win98/ME, Win2k and WinXP. Again I could only test it with Win2k.
                    Last edited by Indiana; 9 February 2002, 13:54.
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