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<FONT SIZE=1><SUP>tm</SUP> courtesy of ALBPM aka Darth Mahl [MU]<FONT SIZE=2>Last edited by ALBPM; 30 April 2002, 20:48."Never interfere with the enemy when he is in the process of destroying himself" -
Hehe
I like my nickname.
So if i have to eat hat . . . . .
BRING IT ON
80% of people think I should be in a Mental Institute
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Originally posted by [GDI]Raptor
Perhaps someone will get an hartatack after they see the eXpreme Power of Parhelia. Perhaps some nVidiots that have just bought a GF4Ti4600 card for alot of money... Bad investment.... Almost as bad as nV stocks
Define a lot of money?.....
I'm asking since you can get some brands of GF4 4600's for under 350$(mostly pny's,visiontek's and some leadtek's as well)....just check pricewatch
What would really impress me is if a midrange version of parhelia would still be able to outperform a TI 4600 by a meaningfull amount,say 20~30% faster and cost no more than 400~425$....Then i'd gladly eat hat.
Now,i would expect nothing less than at least a 60~70% performance improvement over a 4600 for the high end version of parhelia,especially since it might very well cost twice as much as a TI 4600 anyhow,which essentially makes that card address a different market altogether(Nvidia quadro series and ATI fire GL cards come to mind)...Last edited by superfly; 30 April 2002, 20:40.note to self...
Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....
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THERE HE IS!!!
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BTW, superfly. A parhelia will certainly serve your rig quite well it seems.
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I have no doubt it would be a fine addition...but the question is much $$$ will be needed to get a version of parhelia that outperforms the competition by a decent margin,while keeping the price of the card within reason....
Having a card that has 19 gigs of bandwith is nice but if it ends up costing twice as much as the competition,i somehow doubt that matrox would sell many,no matter how good the performance,since it would address a different market altogether...
Even Nvidia learned their lesson the hard way when they priced GF2 ultra's at 500$,only to find out that it's sales were less than spectacular(i wonder why..
)and every single card release since then has been priced at 400$...
note to self...
Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....
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When we hoped for the "G800" Haig was more "no comment" than he is now....If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.
Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."Comment
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Here's something interesting as well...
https://news.com.com/2100-1040-89685...=cnet&tag=Ithd.
It's an interview with Nvidia's CEO in which he mentions their next generation chip that has a completely new architecture relative to the GF4 series built at 0.13 micron and aparently will be anounced as early as august.....note to self...
Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....
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That's funny, people by all these GF4 4400 and 4600's, and they're a lot more expensive than my GF3, which doesn't do too poorly.Having a card that has 19 gigs of bandwith is nice but if it ends up costing twice as much as the competition,i somehow doubt that matrox would sell many,no matter how good the performance,since it would address a different market altogether...
Even so, I don't think it will be a huge problem.Gigabyte P35-DS3L with a Q6600, 2GB Kingston HyperX (after *3* bad pairs of Crucial Ballistix 1066), Galaxy 8800GT 512MB, SB X-Fi, some drives, and a Dell 2005fpw. Running WinXP.Comment
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GF3's still handle pretty much every game out there quite nicely,but as long as there are faster cards out there which can still be considered somewhat resonably priced,the demand for them will always be there...
It's possible to get a GF4 4400 for about 250$ and i've seen GF4 4600's(mostly pny's) going for as little as 320~330$(check pricewatch)...
But if you're going for a top of the line parhelia,which could cost as much as 700~800$,it has to absolutely beat the living crap out of a GF4 4600 at everything,period.
Now nvidia's next gen part is the wilcard,even more so if they offcially anounce it in august....note to self...
Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....
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Midrange = Beats the crap out of GF4800!Originally posted by superfly
But if you're going for a top of the line parhelia,which could cost as much as 700~800$,it has to absolutely beat the living crap out of a GF4 4600 at everything,period.
Top of the line = King of the hill 1-2 years!If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.
Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."Comment
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Technoid, is the GF4800 a typo or a hint that the P will beat the crap out of a tuned or oc'ed 4600 ?
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Originally posted by Technoid
Midrange = Beats the crap out of GF4800!
Top of the line = King of the hill 1-2 years!
For the mid range version i'd be pretty impressed if it outperformed a GF4600 by 20~30% while remaing within 100$ of the GF4's price...
Considering the cost of the high end version of parhelia,i'd expect nothing less than a card with very close to twice the real world fps performance,regardless of settings(AA,anisotropic filtering,etc...)of a GF4 4600...
As far as remaning king of the hill for that long...We'll see if that bold claim holds true..
note to self...
Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....
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Looks there's a hint on when the info about parhelia will be spilled(may 14th?)Check it out...www.nvnews.net....note to self...
Assumption is the mother of all f***ups....
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