What Would You Like To See The Parhelia Called?

[Ant]

People are going to be very very suprised at this offering from Matrox as it looks to excel in all deapartments not just one. Sounds like a tough task I know and I suppose the proof will be in the pudding but but looking at the recipe it's going to be damn tastey. I've never seen Matrox handle a new product as they are doing with this one, they know they have something very good here and are making sure everyone else gets to know. Lets hope it isn't let down by failure to get it out in quantity soon and poor driver support.

I know I have been teasing you all a lot but you'll see why on Tuesday, 9:00AM EST, 1:00PM GMT or whenever someone decides to hell with their NDA as I'm sure they will.

[thop]

If someone breaks their NDA to get the specs out a day or two days earlier i say to hell with them (and the hits they will get). I want to feel the impact on 14th of May

I wonder what acutally happens when you break the NDA. Do you get sued for money or will this just be the last NDA you ever signed?

[labrador]

If you break an NDA a big truck comes from Montreal and dumps thousands of M3D cards on your lawn. Then you are the shame of the town.

[DGhost]

Originally posted by thop
I wonder what acutally happens when you break the NDA. Do you get sued for money or will this just be the last NDA you ever signed?

possibly both... if they were to post info early i could see it being the last NDA they would be under with Matrox. if they leaked hardware to outside sources, it would definatly be money...

a lot of the press stuff is going to be moot May 14th... there are other things that the money clauses in most NDAs are used for...

on another note... i am quite impressed with this launch so far... i have yet to see another company that does a coming soon message for a graphics card... let alone Matrox, the company where very few knew (most of whom were under NDA) about the G450 or G550 launch until it happened...

[FormerEx-SalesSoup]

Originally posted by labrador
If you break an NDA a big truck comes from Montreal and dumps thousands of M3D cards on your lawn. Then you are the shame of the town.

know anyone that needs a bunch of M3Ds? we're up to our waist in them here.

[BroadbandBilly]

Originally posted by rugger
Hey,

What about: To hell with rationality and "Value for Money". Buying and having the best occasionally is FUN.

Rugger made a very valid point here: people spend their money on two types of things - those they need & those they want. By definition, the ones they want are always more fun.

Having said that, I (like many people here) can see both sides of the coin & I also agree with Labrador. I stopped buying top-of-the-range CPUs a long time ago.

I currently have a 1.4GHz Palomino & plan to replace it with a 1.8GHz Thoroughbred in about 6 months. In so doing, I ensure that:-

a) The upgrade is worthwhile (1.4 - 1.8 GHz) & therefore noticeable & beneficial
b) The CPU is also a reasonable price (I'd estimate about £120) - please feel free to flame me in 6 months if I'm wrong

That notwithstanding, I still plan to go out & spend a hefty sum on a Perhelia as soon as it's released. Why? BECAUSE IT'LL BE FUN!

After all, I guess I've saved the money buying mid-range CPUs all these years. It's horses for courses, init?

Oh, & can someone remind me what this thread was about, again?

[ALBPM]

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[Haig]

know anyone that needs a bunch of M3Ds? we're up to our waist in them here.

Mebbe you can deplete your overstock by replacing a certain dll from videologic and you'll end up with a full OGL card for $10

[TdB]

on another note... i am quite impressed with this launch so far... i have yet to see another company that does a coming soon message for a graphics card... let alone Matrox, the company where very few knew (most of whom were under NDA) about the G450 or G550 launch until it happened...

actually, nvidia did that for the GF4 launch, on their site.

[DGhost]

Originally posted by TDB


actually, nvidia did that for the GF4 launch, on their site.

eh, musta missed it... ah well, figures...

[Voyager3D]

No cards at launche

http://forum.matrox.com/mgaforum/Forum8/HTML/001109-3.html

so how many products will be announced, or just one ?
Haig: None. We're only announcing the chip spec.

Danm.. how longe do we have to wait for the card to be announced?
June - July - August or even September????

[Voyager3D]

Ok, June must be the month for the card announcement..

Haig: All of our products are produced by us along with us developing the chips. I think we are 1 of the few remaining chip makers that actually make our own products as well.
That said, we've allways released our chip spec first and a few weeks later, we announce our product spec.

[ravalox]

No cards at launch

I didn't really expect that there would be a product announcement. Everything up until now has been speculation and rumor - hence many doubters.

This is the perfect PR stunt, IMO. Get the faithful excited, announce specs, make the disbelievers <i>eat hat^TM</i>, reveal the actual products, let the word spread, put it in the online shop, watch the dough come rolling in.

Pretty simple, eh?

[labrador]

Broadbandbilly writes:

I currently have a 1.4GHz Palomino & plan to replace it with a 1.8GHz Thoroughbred in about 6 months. In so doing, I ensure that:-

a) The upgrade is worthwhile (1.4 - 1.8 GHz) & therefore noticeable & beneficial

One way I have bought hardware in the past is to plot the performance numbers on the x-axis and the prices on the y-axis. If you are going to buy something anyway this can be useful. You pick the highest performance number just before the exponential curve starts shooting up steeply. If you can't afford it, just wait 4 weeks and try the experiment again, or back off one notch if you can't wait.

I read once that a human perception lab did an experiment with people using computers to do some tasks. During the lunch break they would secretly upgrade components on only some computers and note if anyone noticed a difference during the afternoon. They didn't ask them if the computer was faster and get a response; rather they waited for someone to exclaim, and note on their own, that their machine had changed its behaviour. They found that generally people did not perceive an increase in performance until the change was a factor of 2 times or more. That is, an average person cannot perceive a benefit from an upgrade that is less than a factor of 2 times better than the previous equipment. I'm sure the same wouldn't be true of someone looking for the change, but that isn't the point of the experiment. They wanted to see how much it took for a person concentrating on other tasks (which they believed was the true experiment) to break out and say "wow it's faster". That, to me, should be the true goal of an upgrade - not to get some figure beefed up a little in a benchmark, but to have an improvement that even Grandma would notice.

Sometimes I have used this evidence as a yardstick for my CPU and videocard upgrades. I will wait until I can afford the next hardware which is roughly 2 times better than the previous one.

Keep in mind this is a general concept and there are of course many variables that could make the concept untrue. For example, 40 FPS would look the same as 80 FPS to me, and there are questions like whether the video card scales well with the CPU speed.

[DGhost]

Originally posted by BroadbandBilly


I currently have a 1.4GHz Palomino & plan to replace it with a 1.8GHz Thoroughbred in about 6 months. In so doing, I ensure that:-

wait another couple months, save some extra cash and buy a hammer based system. it will be a bit more expensive, but the performance difference will be greater. honestly, the difference between a 1.4 and a 1.8ghz chip of the same (or similar, in the case of the palomino and tbred cores) architecture is not enough to even justify buying a new chip.