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  • #16
    Originally posted by CaineTanathos
    the Texture unit of the R300 is even Trilinear, the parhelias texture units only bilinear ... , WHYYY
    on the other hand, parhelia has twice the texture units of the r300, so they remain equal in that aspect(at least in theory).
    AFAIK parhelia is still king in when it comes to theoretical multitexture fillrate.
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    • #17
      Like yur say, theoretical

      anisotropic filtering would also have no impact on speed , with games like Quake 3 and Counter strike, but it does , for now anyway
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      • #18
        Originally posted by Ribbit
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        Let me know if you'll be getting rid of that g400 max, I'm looking high & low for one....
        No I won't sell it, I will keep it as backup
        it always works

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        • #19
          anybody noticed that Anand only used the very first Parhelia driver (226) that was available (most likely it came with the card) and didn't even bother to update it (228 and now even 230 are available) ???

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Maggi
            anybody noticed that Anand only used the very first Parhelia driver (226) that was available (most likely it came with the card) and didn't even bother to update it (228 and now even 230 are available) ???

            I have noticed that! And Anand didnt bother to show the preformance with Parhelia and AA (16xFAA)

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            • #21
              Anand's a sellout who drives a beemer; Tom's a sellout who drives beemerS; Kyle's a dork ( ) who drives a chevy (actually, i've had the chance of meeting kyle two eyars ago, and he's a nice fellow, but just like is website, he's very gamer-oriented, so don't beat the living hell outa him when he actually reviews the Parhelia...)

              I might buy a R9700, but I will definitively NOT go in my main workstation; multi-monitor support is FAR from what the Parhelia offers (from a R8500 point of view, which display functionnalities should be roughly the same as the R9700's)

              Anyway, I can play IG3, RTCW, JKII, NWN in surround gaming with aniso (yeah, aniso, something you just CANNOT consider with an nVIDIA card at higher resolutions when using FSAA) and I can play 1600x1200 with 16xFAA and aniso, and it's still as fluid as it can get.

              Oh, BTW, did I mention I've very happy with my Parhelia???
              Last edited by frankymail; 23 July 2002, 20:13.
              What was necessary was done yesterday;
              We're currently working on the impossible;
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              • #22
                You mean "Bimmer" ... "Beemer" is a bike.
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                • #23
                  Nope in Oz we call them a beemer too (at least my part)
                  Juu nin to iro


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                  • #24
                    In the great white north that is Canada, where every man is a lumberjack, trades animal sins during winter and drink REAL beer (Canadian and Irish beers are the best!), and where Matrox cards are built (convincing isn’t it ), we call a BMW a “Beemer”; calling it a “Bimmer” sounds like “dimmer” to me…). Anyway, some –big- reviewers have become pretty wealthy, especially Tom and Anand… The problem with those two is that most of their readers consider what they say/review to be the undisputable truth… They may be right most of the times, but like anyone, they’re sometimes wrong and/or partial…
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                    We're currently working on the impossible;
                    For miracles, we ask for a 24 hours notice ...

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                    - ATI TV-Wonder 550 PCI-E
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                    • #25
                      Beemer or Bimmer

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                      • #26
                        with the latest detonator drivers , anisotropic filtering has also only a small impact on speed.

                        Matrox said that with current games anisotropic filtering would have no impact on the speed.

                        Maybe we future driver releases it will be, but for the moment nope

                        I am still interested in a parhelia, but I will wait a few driver releases.
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                        • #27
                          I HATE ATI

                          and nVidia too
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                          • #28
                            ROFL!! And I'm still lauging my arss off... If you guys got the balls, go and visit ATI's web site, see what they say about Radeon 9700... the flash intro is pretty well made, only one point : " Featuring CATALYST.. industry's most stable 3D acceleration software". Somebody should sue them for inaccurate advertising.
                            Let those who want to be simple, be simple.

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                            • #29
                              The other thing I was thinking about was if ATI had to crank back the clockspeed on the card to make it more stable...should be pretty interesting what happens when people get the real test units in and the problems they might run into
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                              • #30
                                except they prob WONT have to roll back the clockspeed, just to piss us all off...
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