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    Justin Frankel leaves Nullsoft

    Justin Frankel, developer of the original Winamp and founder of Nullsoft, is leaving Nullsoft because he can't stand the pressure AOL puts on him anymore.

    He developed an open source p2p file sharing client with encryption, which AOL forced him to take down. He went through this before, when he developed Gnutella, and was forced to take it back. He then helped other developers "reverse engineer" the Gnutella network.

    So, what do you think des this mean for Winamp? Or will there be a new media player?

    AZ
    There's an Opera in my macbook.
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    NNNgnngnnnn....AOL!!!!
    Why cant they leave people alone??

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    • #3
      Oh, maybe I should've included this little unimportant tidbit: Frankel sold Nullsoft to AOL some time ago, but continued as an employee there.

      AZ
      There's an Opera in my macbook.

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      • #4
        dumb****.
        so that means no more winamp?

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        • #5
          Nullsoft still exists, and Winamp continues being developed by the rest of the team. It's just that the founder and creative head is gone..

          AZ
          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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          • #6
            Actually why AOL did buy Nullsoft?
            To have an optional AOL link after a WinAmp installation?

            Anyway Winamp isn't that cool, IMO, what's cool are the dozens of free high quality plugins available. So it shouldn't be to difficult to develop a new player which can take advantage of Winamp's plugin framework. Perhaps there is one already.

            btw I don't like WA3 it's too bloated, it takes so long to load
            I'm still using the 2.9 branch, I don't need an audio player to watch my videos

            Ivan
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            • #7
              winamp3 screws up your registry..

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              • #8
                AOL probably bought nulsoft just to tell MS that "Hey we also got a mediaplayer, we don't need to use yourse"
                If there's artificial intelligence, there's bound to be some artificial stupidity.

                Jeremy Clarkson "806 brake horsepower..and that on that limp wrist faerie liquid the Americans call petrol, if you run it on the more explosive jungle juice we have in Europe you'd be getting 850 brake horsepower..."

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                • #9
                  AOL wanted to become a media giant, and everyone was buying everyone else at that time. They also bought Mirabilis (ICQ) and Netscape.

                  Guchi: Winamp 2.9 is much better than three.

                  AZ
                  There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                  • #10
                    Yeah, AOL's acquisition of Winamp was really just that... an acquisition. It wasn't strategically motivated in any way.

                    I mean, c'mon they OWN Netscape but they're using IE6 in the new AOL. Bleh.

                    - Gurm
                    The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

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                    If only life were as easy as you
                    I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                    If only life were as easy as you
                    I would still get screwed

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                    • #11
                      AOL's recent bigger business decisions were all stupid. The merger with Time Warner, the acquisition of Netscape and Nullsoft... one really starts to wonder how businesses that are run that way can be successful at all.

                      AZ
                      There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                      • #12
                        They can't. There's a reason AOL has gone down the crapper.

                        - Gurm
                        The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

                        I'm the least you could do
                        If only life were as easy as you
                        I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                        If only life were as easy as you
                        I would still get screwed

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                        • #13
                          I wonder how they managed to get so big in the first place.

                          AZ
                          There's an Opera in my macbook.

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                          • #14
                            I'm convinced that AOL is just a virus. It has screwed up every machine I have ever seen it installed on.
                            --Insert something here--

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                            • #15
                              Re: Justin Frankel leaves Nullsoft

                              Originally posted by az

                              ...
                              So, what do you think des this mean for Winamp? Or will there be a new media player?

                              AZ
                              There already is.
                              foobar2000.

                              btw, created and maintained also by former winamp developer.


                              Originally posted by drslump

                              ...
                              So it shouldn't be to difficult to develop a new player which can take advantage of Winamp's plugin framework. Perhaps there is one already.

                              btw I don't like WA3 it's too bloated, it takes so long to load
                              I'm still using the 2.9 branch, I don't need an audio player to watch my videos

                              Ivan
                              Actually, it is difficult apparently. Or at least unpractical/inconvenient/hard. Anyway...foobar developer said that - and he choose not to implement winamp plugins compatibility in his player - and he was afaik developer of main winamp plugins, so I'd rather believe his comments.

                              drslump, if you don't like audio player to play videos, you'll like foobar - it is perfect in what it does.
                              And does only that.
                              Last edited by Nowhere; 6 June 2003, 18:46.

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