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    So for a while now, as some of you know, I've been working out some ideas for The Flamethrower. dZeus is finally getting his butt in gear on some things (prod, prod, nudge, pat, prod) and it'll be up soon.

    But I'm not sure that it's the right place for some OTHER things I've been working on.

    Jammrock, being a new dad, and I have been chit-chatting about some "basic rules for responsible parents". He's got a great little write-up going about monitoring your kid's video game intake, and I have a few things.

    So, I'm not making a poll... but what do you all think about a no-nonsense, common-sense-based site (or mini-site) that's an aid to responsible parenting.

    I've thought about this for a while. Since I've been (more or less willingly) a stay-at-home dad for the past year and a half, I've learned a lot of things the hard way that aren't in any book.

    The mercenary part of me says "write a parenting book! make big money!" but the altruistic part of me says "make a web site! give this information away in order to make better kids!"

    So what do you all think? I was gonna start off with a "TV Shows that are bad/good for your kids" sort of thing, and try to make it as comprehensive as possible, to help parents make responsible decisions about the (hopefully limited) time their kids spend in front of the idiot-box.

    Some quick one-line blurbs:

    Blue's Clues:

    Harmless, educational, fun. There is nothing to dislike about this show, except for the fact that at times Steve seems to be on some SERIOUS antidepressants. But that could just be me reading too much into it. Grade: A+

    Dora The Explorer:

    Despite my multilinguial misgivings, this show is amazing. At first I wasn't sure about the lack of parental involvement. That's a big detractor. But it IS a decent show after all, and there ARE parents, they're just letting the kid play outside (a big no-no in today's world, I understand, but hey). Grade: A-

    Bear In The Big Blue House:

    My first split-grade. Excellent for the under-2 set, not so good for older kids who will readily pick up on the "kids are in charge and parents have no control" message the show is sadly sending. Teaches excellent lessons, but unfortunately one of those lessons is to disrespect your parents. Grade: A+ for young kids, C for older kids.

    Thomas the Tank Engine:

    This is a disturbing phenomenon. Kids love it and there is NOTHING bad about the show. Not a damn thing. I could go on at some length about the Lutheran/Anglican morality that is pervasive, but it's all GOOD morality and it's not heavy handed. The original author WAS a minister after all. The merchandising is a bit much but kids LOVE this stuff... and it's as wholesome as they get. Grade: A++.

    Jay Jay the Jet Plane:

    The bastard child of Thomas the Tank Engine. Poorly computer generated faces on little planes. No parental figures. No common sense. Ultra-stupid lessons. One episode features a plane that is so BLINDINGLY stupid that he "doesn't understand the seasons". And after a half hour he STILL doesn't, until they sing a retarded song about flowers and flying. This show will make your children stupid. Grade: F-.

    Clifford:

    It was good when we were kids. It's good now. It'll be good long after we're gone. Grade: A.

    Sesame Street:

    Has fallen prey to MTV-esque sensibilities and Political Correctness. Older episodes STILL rule. Also try to catch "Play with me Sesame" on Noggin or your high-end Cable/Satellite channels. Grade: A+ for older shows, B- for newer shows.

    Mr. Rogers:

    Much like cornbread - ain't nuttin' wrong wif dat. Grade: A+.

    Rolie Polie Olie:

    Harmless but stupid. Bad for smaller kids who haven't the attention span to follow it through to its (dubious) moral ending. Made my kid punch people (seriously!). Took us two days to break him of it. Grade: C.

    Sponge Bob:

    This is a plague-riddled show. I object on about 10 levels. Grade: F-----.

    Out Of The Box:

    Maybe it's my "bullshit filter" talking, but this show rubs me the WRONG WAY. Maybe it's the fact that if a gay man and a kinda quirky chick made a clubhouse in their backyard and invited all the neighborhood kids over every day to 'play pretend'... they'd be arrested! Whatever it is, this show gets a ... D.

    Barney:

    Barney is SATAN in a purple coat. Barney teaches kids to kill people. Barney is everything that is wrong with the world. Barney will NEVER be viewed by my children until they are old enough to know how to wield a silver bullet and a wooden stake. Barney must die. Grade: Q. Yeah, that's LOWER than an F. Barney is the ANTI-kid show.

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    I can do this for hours, and I've thought more of it through. These are just quick blurbs. What do y'all think of the idea though?

    Gpar_
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  • #2
    Hey Gurm! I think a common sense pareting guide is just what the world needs right now. That's how my mom brought me and my sister up. Kids today just arn't being brought up right it seems. The other day, for example, I heard some kid call his mother a (excuse the lang.) bitch right to her face. Now he was kidding around, but if I did that to MY mother, I'd be through the wall. somewhere along the line parents dropped the ball, they need to learn how to pick it back up and hold on to it. I say go for it!!

    ~Sethos
    "...and in the next instant he was one of the deadest men that ever lived." – Mark Twain

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    • #3
      IMO
      I don't think the evaluation of television shows is that important. I think parents can easily figure this out for themselves if they care.

      To me, the most difficult part of parenting multiple young children is how to play Solomon. This type of attitude includes

      How to deal with the situation where there are insufficient items to provide one for each child

      How to teach sharing, tolerance, emotional stability, non-violence when appropriate (most of the time )

      How to instill obediance so that your decisions do not result in unattractive behavior and repeated use of the "NO" word to you

      How to multitask in stores when all want different things and different levels of attention - particularly how to deal with unattrative and loud behavior (tantrum) by one or more children when your arms are full of groceries etc.

      How to institute a love of art, music, wisdom, reading, mathematics

      How to create sportsmanship

      (the list is endless)

      If you want more of this ilk, let me know.

      Actually, I think all the above circumstances can be subdivided generally between boys and girls. They seem to react differently to various parental tactics.
      Last edited by Brian R.; 23 August 2003, 17:38.

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      • #4
        GURM,
        You forgot Tele Tubbies.
        You know, LSD for Toddlers.
        chuck
        Last edited by cjolley; 24 August 2003, 05:50.
        Chuck
        秋音的爸爸

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        • #5
          Originally posted by cjolley
          GURM,
          You forgot Tele Tubbys.
          You know, LSD for Toddlers.
          chuck
          Worse even than Barney. This show teaches your kids to be gay, do drugs, get body piercings, and run around naked in public talking baby talk. If kids are too young to talk yet, they need to learn English, dammit.. not have their moronic baby-talk behavior reinforced. The most frightening thing about this show is it makes censorship an attractive option. Grade Z------

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          • #6
            I just have to ask... Whats wrong with SpongeBob?
            Do you not like the show personally? Or do you just think it's bad for kids to watch in general?
            McRhea

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            • #7
              Write a book, become a millionaire, I dare you

              With all those programs listed, how many hours of TV a week does your toddler get anyway?

              Teletubbies is just fine as a kids program actually. My kids are a bit young to show TeleTubies-caused drug abuse, self-mutulation and homesexuality as yet, but they sure as hell don't run around naked talking baby-talk more than is to be expected. Althoug, I admit, my youngest two don;t speak any English yet ;p
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              • #8
                Get the kids to read Dr Spock, so that they can bring up their parents correctly
                Brian (the devil incarnate)

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                • #9
                  McRhea:

                  It's just dumb. It's an attempt to bring Ren&Stimpy sensibilities to the under-8 crowd. Add to that the fact that it's merchandised BEFORE the writers get a crack at it... and the fact that it's frenetic, and attempts to pass off ... nevermind it's just bad.

                  Umf:

                  Logan gets about an hour a day, maybe two if you count the obligatory airing of Thomas the Tank Engine. But I've screened all the shows, just so I know. Yeah, I have nothing better to do. Sad, innit?

                  Gpar_
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                  I'm the least you could do
                  If only life were as easy as you
                  I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
                  If only life were as easy as you
                  I would still get screwed

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                  • #10
                    Gurm, nope, it ain't sad. I trust you and Logan discuss each days' episode afterwards? To ensure proper emotional handling and stuff
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                    • #11
                      I don't think rating kid's TV shows makes a difference in the real world and you know what they say about opinions and ****oles
                      IMHO, everybody is too concerned about how everyone else is raising their kid. My suggestion is to tell everyone to read a good parenting book(Parent Effectiveness Training) and send them on their way.

                      Dave
                      Ladies and gentlemen, take my advice, pull down your pants and slide on the ice.

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                      • #12
                        Gurm, do both.

                        Write a book and sell it on the site. Include all the Logan stories you have posted here. Search "Logan" and half the book is already written.

                        The second book is called "Best of The Site".

                        Then sell the original and "Best of" to a publisher citing the site's popularity.

                        Become rich and famous and open Gurm & Logan's Parenting Centers around the world.

                        Keep your sense of humor.
                        How can you possibly take anything seriously?
                        Who cares?

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                        • #13
                          mutz, you forgot "The Making Of..."
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                          • #14
                            Making of Logan?

                            ...tricky...
                            How can you possibly take anything seriously?
                            Who cares?

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                            • #15
                              ROTFLMAO! I wasn't there, so I couldnt say, but it could just be that that would sell better indeed.
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