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    File on 4 this week examines growing concerns over the rise in the number of cases of the potentially fatal liver disease, Hepatitis B.



    Although the overall incidence is low – around 800 new cases a year – there have been sharp increases in particular areas of the country. In Bristol doctors at the local clinic for sexually transmitted diseases report a mini-epidemic which is running at seven times the national average.



    “I can’t see any good reason why the same thing that’s happened in Bristol shouldn’t happen in Birmingham, Brighton or any other city, “ says the consultant in charge of the clinic, Peter Greenhouse.



    “It may be a little bit more acute here at the moment but I think you need to watch out because it’s coming your way."



    The government’s Joint Committee on Vaccination and Immunisation is now considering universal immunisation against Hepatitis B. Currently in the UK, only high-risk groups are routinely vaccinated against the blood-borne virus. These include doctors and nurses and other health workers. Drug addicts and prostitutes are also targeted.



    But, with the Committee due to report by the end of the year, File On 4 reveals growing concern over the possible side effects of the vaccine. A group of people who became ill after being given the vaccine at work are trying to bring the UK’s first legal action against the manufacturers. They are suffering a range of conditions including rheumatoid arthritis, multiple sclerosis and epilepsy and claim they were not warned of possible side effects.



    One of them, Steve Harrison, a former refuse collector from Brighton, was given the jab after clearing out flats where drug addicts had discarded syringes. Within ten days, his health deteriorated and he was later diagnosed with severe rheumatoid arthritis.



    He tells the programme: "I used to be full of life. I ran a football team and went out dancing a lot. Now I'm disabled and have to take pills morning, noon and night. My wife has to help me to the toilet and bathe me."



    The vaccine manufacturers Aventis Pasteur told File On 4 they could not comment on the case while legal proceedings were active.



    Both they and GSK, the other firm making the vaccine in Britain, maintain that it is safe and claim the benefits of universal vaccination against a potentially fatal disease far outweigh the risks of serious side effects.



    Program repeated on Radio 4. Sunday 17:00-17:40

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/news/fil...028_hepb.shtml
    Although i missed the program, apparently they said that people who were predisposed to developing MS were 28times more likley to develop symptoms after having the Hep B vaccine.
    Anyone seen some research on this?

    My partner had her first attack of multiple sclerosis two months after her first jab, and then her second attack two months after her second jab. I find it perfectly plausable that the vaccine will trigger an attack as it stresses the immune system, but I doubt there will be any proof of a direct causal relationship.
    The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

  • #2
    Ick... not sure which is more disturbing, the problems the vaccine can cause, or the fact that there are enough people getting Hepatitis B in the UK to warrant consideration of manditory vaccinations.

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    • #3
      without going into details Paddy, which site were her injections?

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      • #4
        Gee thanks, great timing.
        I won't sleep a wink tonight.
        We are going to start the three shot HBV set tomorrow!
        We are getting it and HAV for a trip to China next year.
        China has a VERY high HBV rate.
        chuck
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        • #5
          Personally i've been vaccinated for Hep A and B (among other fun things) w/o incident. Hep B is a fairly common vaccine over here in America if i recall correctly (or at least if you are going overseas it is) and I honestly have not heard of any widespread problems with it. it could be that we are using a different vaccine though...
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          • #6
            ANY vaccine can cause problems, but they are rare and given that HepB can be and often is fatal....

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            • #7
              They were all in her left deltoid.
              The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

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              • #8
                Ok, well I feel like a pin cushon.
                Right arm: Flu, Polio Booster.
                Left arm: HAV, HBV, DPT Booster.

                Paddy, how is she doing now?
                Chuck
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by cjolley
                  Ok, well I feel like a pin cushon.
                  Right arm: Flu, Polio Booster.
                  Left arm: HAV, HBV, DPT Booster.

                  Paddy, how is she doing now?
                  Chuck
                  damn, that's a lot of shots at once.

                  I recently got a 1500mg shot of Tordol(is this the right spelling?) which is an anti-inflammatory. My only thought before getting the shots was, nothing can be worse than a tetnus shot. I was dead wrong. it took about 30-60 seconds to administer this shot and it was extremely painful from start to finish.
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                  • #10
                    30-60 sec? ouch!

                    I always hear that about tetnus, but they have never bothered me at all...

                    I guess everyones system is different.

                    chuck
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                    • #11
                      She has good days and bad days... I hope she is finally coming out of a slump. She went back to work this week for the first time in 6months.

                      I am sure they will be fine.
                      The Welsh support two teams when it comes to rugby. Wales of course, and anyone else playing England

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                      • #12
                        isnt tetnus when u get scratched by a rusty nail or something?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by GuchiGuh
                          isnt tetnus when u get scratched by a rusty nail or something?
                          that's one of the ways you can get tetanus if you're not immunised!

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                          • #14
                            That really sux Paddy. What Doc said. I havent seen any studies suggesting a direct causal relationship, so far.
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                            • #15
                              Well....you can get a reaction from most any vaccine but it's pretty rare. Nothing is totally safe.

                              Even if the number of vaccine reactions exceeds that of the actual cases of a disease (as is alleged with the Hep B vaccine in children) you have to consider that the vast majority survive a vaccine incident while Heb B itself is very dangerous with severe long term risks.

                              Dr. Mordrid
                              Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 10 November 2003, 08:14.
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