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    Of the few US Presidents who were assassinated, only two resulted in much national and international interest, Lincoln and Kennedy. In both cases, there was a certain amount of mystery surrounding the murder and the subsequent events, possibly due to botched investigations.

    What is certain, in the case of Lincoln, is that John Wilkes Booth committed the crime; there were enough eyewitnesses in the theatre. It is also known that Booth was a rabid supporter of the South and slavery. What is not known is why Gen. Grant, who was supposed to accompany Lincoln to the theatre called off at the last moment or how Booth's escape from Washington appeared to be assisted by the Union troops.

    Booth was supposed to have been shot dead at the Garrett farm some 10 or 11 days later, but the body was sequestered and no formal identification carried out. It was subsequently taken by boat along the Potomac and hidden in a culvert. It may have stayed there for four years, when it was handed over to the Booth family. When they opened the coffin, the body, in an advanced state of decomposition was identified by his sister. It was in a Confederate army uniform, wearing a cavalry boot on one foot and a shoe, with the instep cut open, on the other. This was purported to provide relief from the broken tibia Booth sustained when jumping from the Presidential box at Ford's onto the stage, but it is hard to understand how a cut instep would relieve the pain from the lower tibia. There is also some doubt as to which leg was injured, as reports vary. The most damning evidence that this was Booth was that the body was accompanied by what was supposed to be Booth's diary.

    However, there is some evidence that Booth had lost his diary on a ferry and he asked a Confederate soldier, Ruddy, to recover it for him. One theory is that the body was that of Ruddy who was returning it to Booth when he was shot in a burning corncrib.

    There is no absolute proof, one way or another. But, if Booth had escaped in 1865, where did he go?

    This is where the plot thickens and we go forward to 1872 when a man named John St Helen took up residence in Glen Rose Mills, Texas, where he bought the general store. A lawyer from Grandberry, Texas. handled a liquor licensing problem for him, one Finis L. Bates. They became firm friends and, later St Helen moved to Grandberry. The latter fell seriously ill and, on his deathbed,,he confessed and made a deposition he was Booth and had killed Lincoln, giving Bates a lot of information that Bootl alone could have known.. However, he recovered and a little later suddenly left Grandberry. Bates was sceptical about the story but started investigating and found that most of it fitted, including the appearance and manner of St Helen, as well as interviewing the protagonists. Bates became convinced that he was, indeed, Booth.

    In the spring of 1901, a man took up residence in a hotel in El Reno, Oklahoma, registering as David E. George. He bought a small property there for $350. He was clearly in poor health and an alcoholic. On a binge, he registered in a hotel in Enid, some distance away, in December 1902. In January 1903, George committed suicide by taking strychnine in the hotel. He left some papers and had made oral confessions in El Reno that he was Booth. The local undertaker refused to have him buried but embalmed the body, believing Federal authorities would want it.

    Hearing of the claims, Bates travelled to Enid and was able to formally identify him as the same man as St Helen. Eventually, the body was shown in a fair sideshow and then Bates bought it and kept it, believing it to be Booth's in his Memphis house until his own death, about 20 years later.

    Epilogue: Harper's Magazine in 1924 commissioned William G Shepherd to investigate the affair. He concluded that George was not Booth because the writing on the cheque that was used to buy the house in 1901 differed from that of the diary (which was believed to be Booth's) of 1865, as if it could be assumed that a person's handwriting as an old, frail man is the same as when in his prime, 36 years earlier.

    There is no proof, one way or another, whether Booth was shot in 1865.
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    Brian (the devil incarnate)

  • #2
    Interesting. What would Grant's motive be for conspiring to murder Lincoln?

    By the way, I always thought LBJ was a manipulative sleaze who probably had something to do with the Kennedy murder, since he certainly had the most to gain from it.

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    • #3
      "What is not known is why Gen. Grant, who was supposed to accompany Lincoln to the theatre called off at the last moment..."

      Grant begged off from going to the theatre because his wife, Julia, told him to. She had been previously been verbally abused by Mary Lincoln and did not intend to take the chance on that happening again at Ford's Theatre. Mary Lincoln was mentally ill to the point of paranoia.

      Grant and Lincoln were very close friends.
      Last edited by Brian R.; 7 August 2004, 12:16.

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      • #4
        As far as I'm aware, Grant actually fled Washington before the murder, with his wife. I'm not over-sure he was squeaky-clean in view of the fact that the Union troops allowed Booth and friend through all the roadblocks, while stopping everyone else. Booth actually had the hastily imposed password, something that had never been implemented before. If Grant himself was not involved, someone very close to him must have been.

        I agree that Mary Lincoln was stark-staring bonkers.

        It has been suggested that one of the many that Lincoln's wife had alienated may have also been privy to the plot and leaked the info.
        Brian (the devil incarnate)

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        • #5
          The Grants left for Philidelphia en route to visiting their sons in New Jersey after they left Washington that day. Saying he "fled" Washington paints a rather biased picture, don't you think?

          Booth could have had friends in the Union Army. Doesn't mean it was Grant.

          Why do this? What is your stake in trying to discredit Grant? If you're not, it sure sounds like it.

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          • #6
            Anti-Grant propaganda?
            P.S. You've been Spanked!

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            • #7
              Looks like it...

              Where's the propaganda police when you need them?
              Last edited by Brian R.; 8 August 2004, 19:24.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Brian R.
                Looks like it...

                Where's the propaganda police when you need them?
                Off duty.
                P.S. You've been Spanked!

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                • #9
                  Your opinion is noted.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Brian R.
                    Your opinion is noted.
                    But is it appreciated?
                    P.S. You've been Spanked!

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                    • #11
                      @Brian, Sorry to take your thread off topic. I found the subject interesting. But obviously, no one will ever know the truth.
                      P.S. You've been Spanked!

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by schmosef
                        Anti-Grant propaganda?
                        Not at all. Perhaps "fled" was too strong a word and I should have used "left". I did evoke the possibility that Grant may have been involved but I equally evoked the possibility that it was one of his aides. What does seem reasonably sure is that someone in high places was involved.

                        My reason for the thread was to see whether any of our US friends had a firm opinion as to whether the official hypothesis of Booth being killed at the Garrett farm or the alternative one of Booth having survived for nearly 40 years more was entrenched. Alternatively, like the Kennedy affair, why do many questions remain unanswered, as appears to be the case? From what I've read from numerous sources, each one raises more questions than it answers. The only thing that remains reasonably sure, in my opinion, is that the affair was bungled (or covered up) from start to finish. I've tried to find out why and by whom but without success, at least from the resources I've been able to lay my mitts on.

                        So, no, it was not anti-Grant propaganda, so much as curiosity. What amazed me though was Brian R's rather violent defence of Grant, not the most stable of persona himself. I'm not the first to have suggested that he was involved to some degree or other, or that someone over whom he had command may have been.

                        So the crux is that I dunno, but am curious to find out more.
                        Brian (the devil incarnate)

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                        • #13
                          Sorry if I appeared to have overreacted, but I admire Grant as a soldier and I don't think there is any basis for the scenario that you related - pertaining to Grant.

                          I am also somewhat of a Civil War buff. The account I told is the generally accepted version of the day, as researched by Shelby Foote. There will always be alternative versions, but I doubt any are as thoroughly researched as his.
                          Last edited by Brian R.; 9 August 2004, 10:03.

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                          • #14
                            I live about 10 miles from El Reno Oklahoma.
                            Want me drive over and ask around?
                            Chuck

                            PS And my family is from Enid.
                            I guess I could drive up there too.
                            Chuck
                            秋音的爸爸

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                            • #15
                              See if you can get a DNA sample

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