What Star Trek technology do you think will be invented first or even possible?

[Elie]

Man alot of cool input and a great discussion there guys and gals, keep it up

Personally when discussing one of the Star Trek technologies (Teleportation) however the scientists made it happen, will not work when teleporting animals or humans, I would say objects only?

I say that because we as humans are not only flesh and blood, we also have a mind a sole, which will make this impossible to teleport, for example, if you were thinking about a mathimatical equation and at the same time you were teleported, I strongly believe that the technology will not be able to teleport a state of mind or a thought, let alone the trillions of molecules we are constructed of, heck to store a humans DNA requires a storage capacity that is not available today or in the next 100 years.

But I do believe the following items can be developed and we'll see them in our lifetime, and I'm 37...

Hyposprays
Shields
Holograms
Replicators to a certain extent.

Now warp speed or in other words achieving the speed of light could be possible again with powerful drives that constantly accelerate at a rapid rate, may take a while but it is possible.
Again as someone mentioned earlier, a ship must have some kind of protective shielding otherwise it will disintigrate if it hits the smalles meteor.

Also I truly believe to keep a ship like the Enterpise in tact while in Warp, a dampening field must be developed otherwise the ships hull and everything in it will simply melt.

Howabout artificial gravity? On the enterprise for example, there is nothing rotating to keep objects glued to the floor, so how is artificial gravity achieved is another story!

Anyway feel free to comment

Regards,
Elie

[Technoid]

Originally posted by rylan
Check out Tela's research... he actually achieved teleportation and manipulation of energy that could be focused as a beam, although with some unfortunate effects.

heh, that sounds interesting

[Dr Mordrid]

The key to teleporting large objects is finding out how to perform quantum tunneling with classical physics objects and not just subatomic particles. When that happens the fun starts.

Dr. Mordrid

[VJ]

Originally posted by Elie
Howabout artificial gravity? On the enterprise for example, there is nothing rotating to keep objects glued to the floor, so how is artificial gravity achieved is another story!

Well, a rotating wheel (like in 2001, A Space Odyssey) seems the easiest solution. But it does have a number of drawbacks.

About the warpdrive: what about inertia? I mean, on the Enterprise, everybody is just going about their normal business, when going to warp (or slowing down from warp). Seems like this is an important issue too...


Jörg

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by Elie
I say that because we as humans are not only flesh and blood, we also have a mind a sole, which will make this impossible to teleport, for example, if you were thinking about a mathimatical equation and at the same time you were teleported, I strongly believe that the technology will not be able to teleport a state of mind or a thought, let alone the trillions of molecules we are constructed of, heck to store a humans DNA requires a storage capacity that is not available today or in the next 100 years.
Regards,
Elie

I believe that our soul is the combination of all the neural connexions made inside our brain. For example, this type of neural schematic will give this type of personality. Of course every human has a diffirent schematic which is what makes each of us unique. When transporting, you just need to replicate the schematic and voila, a human and it's soul will be properly transported. We are electricity within flesh and that electricity runs along biological electrical wires lines called nerves, therefor I believe that human transportation IS possible.

[spadnos]

Originally posted by VJ
Well, a rotating wheel (like in 2001, A Space Odyssey) seems the easiest solution. But it does have a number of drawbacks.

About the warpdrive: what about inertia? I mean, on the Enterprise, everybody is just going about their normal business, when going to warp (or slowing down from warp). Seems like this is an important issue too...


Jörg

The warp theries I've read (yes - there actually are warp theories) talk about making a "gravity potential", then "falling" down the potential. It's like surfing on a gravity wave. Unfortunately, the amount of energy required to do this is roughly equivalent to all the energy in the universe, so it's not practical. I have a paper about a warp drive that doesn't need an infinite amount of energy - If I can find it (and I remember), I'll post a link.

As for the "acceleration" - there isn't any - the ship is just "falling" through space like normal - it's space that's all screwy

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- Steve

[High_Jumbllama]

Ahh the inertial dampeners and structural integrity fields.

As for acceleration, as far is the ship is concerned it is supposedly is not going faster than C. It involves a series of nested assymetric continuum distortion layers. Each layer goes a small fraction of C and together they add up. The fields continuously expand and eventually collapse being replaced by newly generated layers.

[High_Jumbllama]

Originally posted by Elie
Just for a minute there, you sounded like a Ferengi

Cheers,
Elie

I use to be far to far into Star Trek and add to that my weird selective memory. I had the technical manual on CD somewhere. It mentions most of what I have typed. One of the funny things is that there is a captain's head (Toilet Facilities) right off the bridge on the Galaxy class ships.

[Dr Mordrid]

Originally posted by ZokesPro
I believe that our soul is the combination of all the neural connexions made inside our brain. For example, this type of neural schematic will give this type of personality. Of course every human has a diffirent schematic which is what makes each of us unique. When transporting, you just need to replicate the schematic and voila, a human and it's soul will be properly transported. We are electricity within flesh and that electricity runs along biological electrical wires lines called nerves, therefor I believe that human transportation IS possible.

Many (including physicist Sir Roger Penrose) now believe that the "soul", or if you will the personality, is the sum quantum states of the brain microtubules; small structures that operate in the quantum world.

IF this is the case then;

1. duplicate the physical structure of a person

2. duplicate the quantum state of all the particles, particularly those in the brains microtubules

and the rest follows.

One of Penrose's collaborators is anesthesiologist Dr. Stuart Hameroff, who has a rather interesting site documenting some of their work on "quantum conciousness" here;

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org

Dr. Mordrid

[Elie]

That maybe true Doc, however "Duplicating" is just another word for cloning.

So during the teleportation process, is the person destroyed then reconstructed at the other end? Will the process of breaking down the person to molecules painfull?

I wouldn't want to be the first person to test it

Cheers,
Elie

[ZokesPro]

Originally posted by Dr Mordrid

http://www.quantumconsciousness.org

Dr. Mordrid

with particles being in multiple places simultaneously, connected over distance, and with time not existing

Not sure why, but this makes a lot of sense.

Originally posted by Elie
I wouldn't want to be the first person to test it

Cheers,
Elie

Me either!! I'd end up like that guy in Spaceballs.

[Dr Mordrid]

Zokes Pro;

It makes sense because it's real at the quantum mechanics level.

Elie;

Me neither. I've seen The Fly too many times

Dr. Mordrid