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  • #16
    Originally posted by Kooldino
    So to test this, I want to just run a test wire from the + side on the battery to the + side of the fan, while the car is off?
    I'd do it with the car on, off, fans on , off etc.

    I think that's why some cars go poof when you connect the battery up wrong.
    Chuck
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Kooldino
      ...
      I'm wondering if I could just pull the thermostat out completely and run without it for a test.
      You could start with that.
      Chuck
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      • #18
        Originally posted by cjolley
        TEST THE LEADS!
        If the relays that turn these fans on ground a fan's hot wire when they (the relay) are "off"
        then you will short out your car.
        It will catch fire and burn up
        Ok, so then how exactly do I perform a test?

        You HAVE replaced the thermostat haven't you?
        No, I just assumed it was working fine since I have zero cooling problems while the car is moving.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Kooldino
          Yup.

          The fluid isn't low...and I recently changed it as part of my diagnosis. Distilled water, 60/40 with radiator coolant, and a bottle of water wetter for good measure.
          Distilled water eh? You really love your machine.
          Originally posted by Kooldino
          I'm wondering if I could just pull the thermostat out completely and run without it for a test.
          I wanted to do that with my Satrun seeing as it normally runs hot. try it out and post your results.
          Last edited by ZokesPro; 15 September 2005, 12:00. Reason: Cause I don't type fast, or fast enough.
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          • #20
            Originally posted by ZokesPro
            Distilled water eh? You really love your machine.
            Actually not. Distilled water is VERY acidic.

            Buy the coolant that is pre mixed.
            Chuck
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            • #21
              Originally posted by cjolley
              Actually not. Distilled water is VERY acidic.

              Buy the coolant that is pre mixed.
              How is distilled acidic? Isn't it pure water?

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Kooldino
                How is distilled acidic? Isn't it pure water?
                That's what I thought.
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                • #23
                  Distilled water is very agressive. Not acidic.

                  Remember water is a solvent.

                  Very good for cleaning windscreens with no smears.
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                  • #24
                    Amazing ain't it.
                    Test some distilled water with one of those cheap aquarium PH testers.

                    I't not high concentration, but the ratio of OH- to H+ must be pretty low.

                    I'd guess it has to do with the way they manufacture store bought distilled water.

                    Edit: I'm not talking about lab distilled water, I'm talking about distilled water you buy at the grocery store in the plastic bottles.
                    Chuck
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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by ZokesPro
                      That's what I thought.


                      Another point involves alkalinity and acidity. Natural health writers generally agree that the body maintains best health when it maintains a ph leaning to the alkaline side rather than the acidic side, and yet distilled water quickly turns highly acidic, about 5.8 in an open air container.


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                      • #26
                        Damn!

                        So what's best? De-ionized water?
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                        • #27
                          However, it looks like the antifreeze is a base...



                          The alkalinity of an antifreeze/water mix varies because of the additives used and the ingredient ratio but should be between the pH range of 8 and 11. The average antifreeze pH value is 10.5. When the antifreeze is mixed with water and added to the cooling system, the pH decreases to 8.5 to 9. A higher pH level is not always better because some new long-lasting coolants have a pH of 8.3. As long as the pH value stays stable, the cooling system is fine.

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                          • #28
                            ...yet distilled water quickly turns highly acidic, about 5.8 in an open air container
                            New theory, it's the CO2 in the air creating carbonic acid.
                            Chuck
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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by cjolley


                              New theory, it's the CO2 in the air creating carbonic acid.
                              A solution of carbon dioxide in water in equilibrium with the atmosphere (0.033% CO2) has a pH of 5.6.
                              source: wikipedia

                              So it turns it into "acid rain"?

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                              • #30


                                The smaller the number on the pH scale, the more acidic the substance is. Rain measuring between 0 and 5 on the pH scale is acidic and therefore called "acid rain." Small number changes on the pH scale actually mean large changes in acidity.

                                For example, a change in just one unit from pH 6.0 to pH 5.0 would indicate a tenfold increase in acidity. Clean rain usually has a pH of 5.6. It is slightly acidic because of carbon dioxide which is naturally present in the atmosphere. Vinegar, by comparison, is very acidic and has a pH of 3.
                                Chuck
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