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  • #46
    I have no pity for Sony. If they/RIAA think that you should sue a grandfather if their minor grandchild downloaded a song, then Sony should hang for selling a trojan.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by Wombat
      I have no pity for Sony. If they/RIAA think that you should sue a grandfather if their minor grandchild downloaded a song, then Sony should hang for selling a trojan.
      AMEN!
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      • #48
        There's a "Fortress 2: Re-entry" movie in one of our TV channels right now, about future megacorp that abuses power in world scale.
        By Columbia.

        Oh, the irony
        (I wouldn't be surpised if the script was a wet dream of some Sony menager )

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        • #49
          Originally posted by Wombat
          I have no pity for Sony. If they/RIAA think that you should sue a grandfather if their minor grandchild downloaded a song, then Sony should hang for selling a trojan.
          Sony can't hang. Unlike mere mortal persons, corporate persons cannot be held accountable. The most they could do would be to fine them. It would be absolutely wonderful if corporations could face the same penalties people do. When they cause massive deaths through negligence, they are allowed continued existence, and now their liability has been limited by tort reform laws. If corporations were dissolved, their corporate charters revoked, and their directors imprisoned for their crimes, they would be a lot more careful who they harmed.
          Last edited by KvHagedorn; 19 November 2005, 23:05.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by KvHagedorn
            Sony can't hang. Unlike mere mortal persons, corporate persons cannot be held accountable. The most they could do would be to fine them.
            Not completely true. In many states corporate executives can be held accountable for illegal actions of the company, even to the point of going to jail. Of course some of these were execs who raided the company coffers for personal gain, but others were not.

            Economist article....

            but in other cases execs have even been tried because of company actions that resulted in death etc.

            Then there is the federal RICO Act (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act), wherein a person or group who commits any 2 of a large number of state or federal crimes within a 10-year period (and has committed those crimes with "similar purpose or results") can be charged with racketeering.

            Those found guilty under RICO can be fined up to $25,000 and/or sentenced to 20 years in prison. Sony had better be listening, because if some federal prosecutor decides to use RICO....

            Also implicit in RlCO's language is that a governmental agency could become "corrupted", and in fact many dozens of RICO complaints have been filed against state and local governments....thereby federalizing local government malfeasance.

            Under RICO individuals can also file civil cases against organizations or groups where triple damage awards apply.

            One interesting example of a RICO civil action is the one filed by Tanya Anderson against the Atlantic Records in 2005.

            Tanya responded to a lawsuit against her by Atlantic Records by suing them under the RICO Act alleging that RIAA members, in this case Atlantic Records, engaged in "illegal computer trespass, extortion, and unfair trade practices" under Oregon state law....thereby federalizing a state case.

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            Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 19 November 2005, 23:13.
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            • #51


              Look what "the idnustry" thinks about it...apparently it's all OK, the only problem was unknown security volnurabity

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              • #52
                I hope the bastards go down hard. I'd love to see a spyware and copyright infringement fine in the billions.

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