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  • #31
    We know that weather guys tend to concentrate on IR and visible solar emissions but don't pay much attention to near-UV and beyond. What's the difference? The lower energiess change about 5% over time but the higher energies can change over 80% over quite short timeframes, and those account for a lot of the suns output and cause no small amount of atmospheric "swelling" and cloud formation according to very recent studies.

    IMO the jury is still out, esp. in these post-Koreagate days of scientific "research".

    Dr. Mordrid
    Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 12 February 2006, 12:53.
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    • #32
      You answer your own question with "big ghanges over short timeframes". This is weather, not climate. In any case, you are incorrect about UV: this has been constantly monitored since 1924, when the first high-altitude UV monitoring was installed at Davos, with many others following thereafter at most of the mountain observatories. Nowadays, of course, UV forecasts are given to help stupid people cook themselves red on beaches.

      The solar spectral irradiance energy at very short wavelengths becomes extremely small. Perhaps you do not realise that the integrated energy of all wavelengths under 0.120 micrometres (about 1/4 of visible indigo) averages 0.00044% of the total energy of solar irradiance, so a short-term 80% increase makes next to bugger-all difference. (Info from NASA Technical Report R-351 The Solar Constant and the Solar Spectrum Measured from a Research Aircraft by Matthew Thekaerkara. The measurements were done in a U-2 aircraft flying well into stratospheric altitudes.

      As for your citing Koreagate, this is unworthy of you. I have no clue how many scientists there are in the world, many millions. About once a year, one is revealed as having falsified published data or committed other heinous crimes, such as this pseudo-cloner. At this time, about 5,000 scientists are working on climate change, many of them being very high-level academics and practicians. Their work is correlated by the ~180 members of the Scientific Panel of the IPCC, all top-level guys, and it is very seriously peer-reviewed within and without the panel. You are implying they are all corrupt. PLE-E-E-EZE!
      Brian (the devil incarnate)

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