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  • #16
    Originally posted by schmosef
    Don't get me wrong. I think that if you stick around here long enough you'll quickly find that I am among the harshest critics here of the ideology that he espouses.
    Sorry, the comment I made wasn’t against you at all. I was just being sarcastic with the Geneva Convention itself.
    As we know the World history, we know who obeys their rules and who doesn’t. And those who don’t we could separate into 2 groups:
    Those pretending that they obey them & those who don’t give a damn what the rest of the world thinks! And from the last group (or country), you’ll still find a majority to be a bunch of a good people. They were just born in a wrong place, and at the wrong time. Just like someone was born in US, Canada or any other given country, can’t be labeled good or bad.
    It’s based on every individual, it’s what we are. And that’s what labels us good or bad.
    Now, we could generalize that there are more bad that good or the other way around in any given region/country/continent based on facts of life, and that’s why Geneva Convention is necessary.
    However, for those who are proven 300% of their crime to humanity, Geneva Convention rules should be suspended!

    [QUOTE ]We need a better strategy for dealing with his brothers in arms, that's for sure, but we don't need to be debasing ourselves in the process.[/QUOTE]

    You’re right, we don’t.
    It’s just very difficult to scare them off with a vision of spending the rest of their life in a small, but climate controlled environment cell, with toilet, hot shower, guaranteed decent food, medical, dental, TV etc.
    This does sound like heaven to some of them, comparing to their current life conditions.
    Andy.
    Diplomacy, it's a way of saying “nice doggie”, until you find a rock!

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    • #17
      I still find it utterly offensive that my tax dollars will support his continued existence.

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      • #18
        I am wondering, would AQ not perhaps try to take hostages and demand his release in return for the lives of the hostages?
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        • #19
          Well, the US gov't never negotiates with hostages, so that wouldn't get anywhere.

          Besides, AQ would just kidnap people anyway, and come up with some other "reason."
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          • #20
            They did with Iran at the time, no?

            Anyway, to me, I can;t be sure, I;ve never been in such a situation, but I think, if it were up to me, I'd rather get a bullet in the head then spend the rest of my life in that kind of prison.

            Don;t get me wrong, I love myself, but that'd just be a tad overkill.
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            • #21
              Originally posted by KvHagedorn
              I still find it utterly offensive that my tax dollars will support his continued existence.
              I used to be for the death penalty for that specific reason; if you were never going to let someone out of jail, why waste food and money on them?

              Then I read something that said the cost to prepare and present a death penalty case is higher than the cost of incarcerating a criminal for the rest of his/her natural live.

              I'm not sure if that's actually true so I've decided to be ambivalent.

              My main concern is that the prison system itself be reformed.

              It should be as unpleasant as possible without actually being physically dangerous. There should be real opportunities for inmates to be reformed and properly prepared to be reintroduced to society.
              P.S. You've been Spanked!

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              • #22
                P.S. You've been Spanked!

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                • #23
                  Chuck
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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by schmosef
                    Then I read something that said the cost to prepare and present a death penalty case is higher than the cost of incarcerating a criminal for the rest of his/her natural live.
                    So the reaction to this is to NOT seek the death penalty? How about lowering those costs?

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