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**Nowhere** · 17 January 2007, 18:52

Really, just go to see the doctor ASAP, he'll know (says somebody with partially similiar thing, who haven't done that yet...hmmm). Bloody thing generally should always ring an alarm, I think...

**Dr Mordrid** · 17 January 2007, 18:58

1. go to Dr.

2. check the operation of your humidifier. If you don't have one, GET ONE!

**Gurm** · 17 January 2007, 19:10

Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post

1. go to Dr.

2. check the operation of your humidifier. If you don't have one, GET ONE!

Yeah I think that the cold-vapor humidifier (water bucket with fan, essentially) is not doing a good enough job. I mean it spits the entire contents of the 0.75-gallon reservoir into the air by morning, but I think a warm-mist might be more in order. Our old warm-mist got icky, and I was concerned that it was spitting out mold or something so I tossed it.

I miss the "set the humidity level and we'll make it so" we used to have. I hear the ultraviolet ones are good too...

**Nowhere** · 17 January 2007, 19:14

Aquarium?

**Gurm** · 17 January 2007, 19:32

Ok actually I found an older one. It boils the water with a little element. Those are safe, yeah? I mean it's BOILING the water, it can't really spew disease into the air... can it?

**ND66** · 17 January 2007, 20:21

Always go see a doctor first, as soon as you can and that is a total BS if they have to give you a physical first! Fight them, itâ€™s not your fault that the flu or whatever you may have couldnâ€™t wait until you get the physical done.

Anyway, it sounds normal for this year viral infection.....and Iâ€™m not joking.

First, the time to get over any viral infection is like double now.

Myself, I do suffer fro frequent sinus infections every year, but this year is nothing like it used to be.

Cured one with a dose of antibiotics and had a couple relapses of it, almost instantly, one after another. Go to sleep in the evening with no symptoms and wake up in the morning stuffed worse then thanksgiving turkey! Couldnâ€™t even blow it out, and when it came out, it was almost in a SOLID state! Yellowish-bloody ball.

And what makes it worse, for some reason, couple of times into the infection I started to get something like a tooth/gum infection, somehow related to it. Donâ€™t know how or why, did ask my doctor & dentist about it, they donâ€™t have a clue.

But I can almost bet on it, if I just want to wait it out, 5~6 days later Iâ€™ll have the tooth/gum infection brewing.

At work, there were a couple of people going thru a double and triple dose of antibiotics before their sinus infection did clear upâ€¦. .

Good luck to you all.

**ND66** · 17 January 2007, 20:27

P.S.

As for the ultraviolet light, I do have one in my furnace, also I have the one from The Sharper Image just for the kidâ€™s bedroom, (we have 3) but the one in a bedroom dries up the air too much and is noisy. The furnace one works pretty good, but it will never create a bacteria free environment. It will help to clear the â€œsick airâ€ and prevent spreading up to a point, it will not hold the child hand if they drink from the same cup if theyâ€™re sickâ€¦.. .

**Dr Mordrid** · 17 January 2007, 20:29

I have to be careful about humidifier choices because of my asthma, so take this as info drawn from experience.

Yes, boiling water humidifiers can spread bugs. The batch of water sitting in the reservoir may not boil long enough to kill all the organisms present (10+ min) before both are launched into the air stream.

Bacterial and mold spores can be even tougher. Bacteria accidentally launched to the Moon with Surveyor 12 in 1967 were still viable when its camera was returned to Earth by Apollo 12's crew in 1969 - 2 years on the freakin' Moon

We settled on a flow through humidifier because they don't use a water reservoir, which can promote bacteria/mold growth and set up the conditions that promote "humidifier fever" (EPA article).

Keeping the humidistat set to 45%-50% works good for me, but as important as the right kind of humidifier and the setting is maintaining it as directed. NO substitute for that.

Also read this on Glenn Haege's site....

NATURAL GAS FORCED AIR CENTRAL HEATING SYSTEMS

Jim Williams favors the flow through, powered humidifier made by companies like Bryant, (800) 428-4326; Skuttle, (800) 848-9786; Research Products Aprilaire, (608) 257-8801; and Honeywell, (800) 345-6770.

In flow through humidifiers, a broad trickle of water flows over an evaporative pad. Unused water drains out of the system. The two biggest benefits are far greater efficiency than drum style humidifiers and continuous flushing. Bryant's Deluxe Fan-Powered Humidifiers delivers up to 25 gallons of moisture a day. Aprilaire's Model 760 A has an evaporative capacity of .75 gallons an hour or 18 gallons a day.

A minor drawback is that eight to fifteen dollars of water are wasted every year through drainage. I gladly pay this slight premium for increased health and comfort.

Jim Williams estimates that replacing an old humidifier with the flow through kind would cost between $325 and $500. Age of your furnace should not be a consideration because a flow through humidifier can be transferred from furnace to furnace.

Mike Shorkey, of Detroit Safety Furnace, favorite humidifier is the Humid-a-Mist Pulse Humidifier. This humidifier is an improvement upon the atomizing humidifier that sprays a fine mist into the hot air supply.

Usually I am not in favor of this type of humidifier because a clogged misting nozzle can cause rusting.

Shorkey says the Humid-a-Mist solves this problem with a water filter that prevents clogging. In addition, the Humid-a-Mist is 100% effective, no water is wasted and no drain needed. You can by-pass the heating system, permitting humidification with room temperature air.

The Humid-a-Mist is recommended for all forced air systems that do not have zoned heat. The installed cost should be in the $375 to $400 range.

Glenn Haege tells it like it is, which is why his home improvement show has a wide audience in Detroit..

**ND66** · 17 January 2007, 20:33

Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post

We settled on a flow through humidifier because they don't use a water reservoir, which can promote bacteria/mold growth and set up the conditions that promote

Yup, got the flow through humidifier too.

My father has light astma too.

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**Jammrock** · 17 January 2007, 22:24

My wife watched a report on the national news, don't know which one, that says getting a flu shot would have been worthless this year. Scientists suspect that the strain of flu that's going around is brand spanking new.

My entire family had this bug last week. Nasty sucker. Congestion, cold, fever, aching all over, unable to sleep, runny nose... I don't recommend getting it.

**ALBPM** · 17 January 2007, 22:39

I got tired of the cronic sinus infections and bought a Grossan Hydropulse back in August after 2 courses of antibiotics did nothing to help relieve my infection

http://www.alerg.com/page/A/PROD/SST...FSNQYwod4kG1KQ

I use the Breathe-ease or non-iodized salt in it.
http://www.alerg.com/Merchant2/merch...t_Code=SST2020

Cheapest place for the Breathe-ease is Amazon.com. They have a 2 pack for 24.95

http://www.amazon.com/TWO-PACK-Breat...?ie=UTF8&s=hpc

The Hydropulse "blows" out stuff that decongestants and neti pot type rinses can't touch.
The first day I had mine I used it 4 times and was totally amazed at what it flushed out of my sinuses.

az · 18 January 2007, 03:53

(OT: Why air humidifiers? Very few people have them here, I certainly don't and my parents never did, and I don't know why we should.)

Get well soon, Gurm! (Insert rant about crappy american health system here)

**Gurm** · 18 January 2007, 05:13

Originally posted by az View Post

(OT: Why air humidifiers? Very few people have them here, I certainly don't and my parents never did, and I don't know why we should.)

Get well soon, Gurm! (Insert rant about crappy american health system here)

Our heating systems over here dry out the air something terrible, making the place a festering pile of static electricity and dry mouths/noses/throats during the winter.

**Gurm** · 18 January 2007, 05:16

Ok, see there are two things at work against me with the doctor.

The first is that I never needed a doctor under LAST year's health plan. Skipped the annual physical (I know, naughty me), and just never got that sick. So now we're on ANOTHER new health plan. Blue Cross PPO. Decent plan, but now I have to find a doctor. Unless I want to drive an hour to the doctor that already knows me... I'm considered a "new patient". They want "new patients" to get a physical first - this is not just for the sake of the physical, but because when they schedule you a "sick person" visit it's a 15-minute increment and they want/need to already have the paperwork done, whereas when they schedule you a physical it's a longer visit (30 minutes of a DR/PA's time) and they're filling out the paperwork all over again ANYWAY.

So I can understand that. But I find it irksome that they're like "well we won't schedule you an appointment if you're a new patient - you can come to walk-in". Walk-in is full of old people coughing and dying and moaning about their goiters.

*sigh*

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