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  • #16
    Originally posted by Gurm View Post
    Nobody says boo when some star athlete rapes a girl, gets high and smashes his car into a bus full of kids, or other horrible acts. Hell, if you're a popular enough player, you can murder your wife and her gay friend! But HEAVEN HELP US if you use steroids!
    Read this....

    In addition, steroid supplements such as DHEA and androstenedione (known as Andro) are available over-the-counter in the United States , and are often sold at health food stores or gyms. These are weak anabolic steroids, so people must take large doses to see any effect. Generally, side effects are the same as with anabolic steroids, although harmful effects are reported less often with over-the-counter supplements.
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    Recognizing signs of steroid use

    Steroids are usually injected into the muscle, although some are taken orally or applied to the skin as creams or gels. Often, people will take more than one type of steroid. There are more than 100 different anabolic steroids.

    Here are some of the outward signs of steroid use:

    * Needle marks over large muscle areas.
    * Disproportionate body size, with overdeveloped upper body muscles.
    * Mood swings and aggressive behavior (known as "roid rage").
    * Acne
    * Deepened voice for women.
    * Hair loss that resembles male pattern baldness.
    * Increased appetite

    In addition, steroid use can cause:

    * Muscle or tendon tears
    * Liver damage
    * Higher cholesterol levels
    * Shrinking testicles in men and irregular menstrual periods in women
    * Stunted growth in children or young teens
    Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 8 May 2007, 10:51.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post
      Speaking as a former Little League coach (all divisions; little to big) with 20+ years in the dugout;

      BS. Ruth didn't. Maris didn't. Aaron didn't.

      IMO Mark McGwire and Barry Bonds "records" should be expunged from the books and they should get the same treatment Ferguson Jenkins got for using drugs: banned for life.

      That an arbitrator overturned it later is irrelevant, it should have stuck because of the poor example he set, sending the message to kids that drugs were OK in sports. Stuff like that matters to young players.

      Because of their horrid example, and those of players in other sports, we have Little Leaguers shooting steroids and growth hormones
      I am NOT saying we should condone it. But take EVERYONE to task. You're absolutely right, expunge the records of ALL steroid users! But don't make Bonds out to be somehow MORE terrible than the others!

      And yes, the all-time greats didn't use steroids - that's why they were great.
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      • #18
        Link....

        'Bonds cheated on wife and game', says Schilling

        Curt Schilling, the outspoken pitcher of the Boston Red Sox, levelled his guns on Tuesday at Barry Bonds, who needs 12 homers to break Hank Aaron's all-time home run record.

        Bonds has been at the centre of baseball's ongoing steroids controversy, but never has admitted to knowingly taking steroids.

        Schilling must have thought otherwise during an interview with Boston-based sports radio station WEEI.

        "He (Bonds) admitted he used steroids. There's no gray area," Schilling said on WEEI. "He (Bonds) admitted cheating on his wife, cheating on taxes and cheating on the game."

        On December 4, 2003, Bonds was one of several athletes forced to testify as part of the BALCO case, which centred around the San Francisco-area lab, its founder Victor Conte, and Greg Anderson - Bonds' personal trainer and longtime friend.

        Anderson was indicted for illegal distribution of steroids.

        Bonds told the grand jury that he believed Anderson had given him flaxseed oil and arthritic balm, a substance that turned out to contain steroids.

        "Hank Aaron not being there, the commissioner (Bud Selig) not knowing where he's going to be, it's sad," Schilling told WEEI. "I don't care if he's black, green, purple or yellow or whatever. It's just unfortunate there's good people and bad people."
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        • #19
          I'm hoping Ken Griffey Jr. can hang on for another 10 years. He's at 581 right now, the record is 755. If he can stay healthy and play even another 6 or 7 years he might have a chance.

          He has 16 this year, and is 37 years old.
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          • #20
            I'd settle for a well-timed lightning or meteorite strike

            Yes, I'm that upset wih the SOB.
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            • #21
              Bonds is at 748 now.
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              • #22
                748 and 3 months of ball play left in the year. Bets on whether he will be walked every time at bat for the rest of the season if he reaches 754 this year?

                And Curt Schilling is one to talk. He is twice the ****ole Bonds ever was.
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                • #23
                  Griffey hit 2 HR last night, to put him at 584, 21 on the season, and to pass McGwire.

                  Bonds is at 749 now.
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                  • #24
                    Bonds is at 752. Age 42.
                    Arod is at 496. Age 31.
                    Ken Griffey is at 587. Age 37.

                    Wonder what those numbers will look like when they are all retired.
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                    • #25
                      A-Rod hits 500, youngest ever to hit 500.

                      Bonds hits 755, ties the record.
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                      • #26
                        i have Hank Aarons All time Home Run King baseball card.

                        maybe i should sell it this week
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                        • #27
                          ermm. tomorrow.
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                          • #28
                            Bonds hit 756 - he is now the all-time homerun leader.
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                            • #29
                              Barry Bonds: 756*********************************************
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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Dr Mordrid View Post

                                Because of their horrid example, and those of players in other sports, we have Little Leaguers shooting steroids and growth hormones
                                Are you sure they aren't doing because their parents are trying to live variously though them?
                                I'm sure if someone offered you something to make you play better, you would do it...

                                So does some famous actor taking drugs make me want to go out and do the same thing?
                                Why is it called tourist season, if we can't shoot at them?

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