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    is going on in crater Endurance. A picture = 1,000 words;



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    A new analysis of pictures taken by the exploration rover Opportunity reveals what appear to be small ponds of liquid water on the surface of Mars.

    The report identifies specific spots that appear to have contained liquid water two years ago, when Opportunity was exploring a crater called Endurance. It is a highly controversial claim, as many scientists believe that liquid water cannot exist on the surface of Mars today because of the planet’s thin atmosphere.

    If confirmed, the existence of such ponds would significantly boost the odds that living organisms could survive on or near the surface of Mars, says physicist Ron Levin, the report's lead author, who works in advanced image processing at the aerospace company Lockheed Martin in Arizona.

    Along with fellow Lockheed engineer Daniel Lyddy, Levin used images from the Jet Propulsion Laboratory's website. The resulting stereoscopic reconstructions, made from paired images from the Opportunity rover's twin cameras, show bluish features that look perfectly flat. The surfaces are so smooth that the computer could not find any surface details within those areas to match up between the two images.

    The imaging shows that the areas occupy the lowest parts of the terrain. They also appear transparent: some features, which Levin says may be submerged rocks or pebbles, can be seen below the plane of the smooth surface.

    Smooth surface

    The smoothness and transparency of the features could suggest either water or very clear ice, Levin says.

    "The surface is incredibly smooth, and the edges are in a plane and all at the same altitude," he says. "If they were ice or some other material, they'd show wear and tear over the surface, there would be rubble or sand or something."

    His report was presented at a conference of the Institute of Electrical and Electronics Engineers, and will be published later this year in the institute's proceedings.

    No signs of liquid water have been observed directly from cameras on the surface before. Reports last year pointed to the existence of gullies on crater walls where water appears to have flowed in the last few years, as shown in images taken from orbit, but those are short-lived flows, which are thought to have frozen over almost immediately.
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    Last edited by Dr Mordrid; 9 June 2007, 11:28.
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    Complete and utter tripe. That location is in the crater along the side where the slope is pretty steep, so liquid water isn't just going to stay put. It's not even remotely "perfectly flat," and it has plenty of surface detail. And it sure the hell doesn't look like ice:





    All it is just fine sand/dust that's eroded from the hematite "blueberries." It looks blue in the enhanced color examples because it is gray, which is "bluer" than the yellowish red rocks.
    Last edited by Jon P. Inghram; 9 June 2007, 13:10.

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    • #3
      I'm missing some scale here, what are we talkigng about here? yards (potencial guppy fish colony)? acres (humans)? miles (humans from the American mid west)?
      Originally posted by Gurm
      .. some very fair skinned women just have a nasty brown crack no matter what...

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      • #4
        See all the little balls sticking out of the rock? They're about 3 mm wide.

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        • #5
          Here's the panorama of Burns Cliff, where the "water" is found (right in the middle):



          I guess somebody at NASA must have been asleep at the wheel if they didn't notice that (supposedly) the entire side of that cliff had running water all across it.

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          • #6
            err, what's that on the right, they took up agriculture ?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Admiral View Post
              err, what's that on the right, they took up agriculture ?
              guess that's a shot from the hangar where they filmed the fake moon landing ...
              "Women don't want to hear a man's opinion, they just want to hear their opinion in a deeper voice."

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