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  • "Comcast to limit customers' broadband usage "

    Didn't they say that they'll never do such a thing few months back?

    Or I'm just confused a little...

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    SAN FRANCISCO (Reuters) - Comcast Corp, the largest U.S. cable operator, said on Thursday it will cap customers' Internet usage starting October 1, in a bid to ensure the best service for the vast majority of its subscribers.


    Comcast said it was setting a monthly data usage threshold of 250 gigabytes per account for all residential high-speed Internet customers, or the equivalent of 50 million e-mails or 124 standard-definition movies.

    "If a customer exceeds more than 250 GB and is one of the heaviest data users who consume the most data on our high-speed Internet service, he or she may receive a call from Comcast's Customer Security Assurance (CSA) group to notify them of excessive use," according to the company's updated Frequently Asked Questions on Excessive Use.

    Customers who top 250 GB in a month twice in a six-month timeframe could have service terminated for a year.

    Comcast said up to 99 percent of its 14 million Internet subscribers would not be affected by the new threshold, which it said would help ensure the quality of Internet delivery is not degraded by a minority of heavy users.

    U.S. Internet subscribers are typically not aware of any limit on their Internet usage once they sign up to pay a flat monthly fee to their service provider.

    As Web usage has rocketed, driven by the popularity of watching online video, photo-sharing and music downloading services, cable and phone companies have been considering various techniques to limit or manage heavy usage.

    But Comcast has come under fire from a variety of sources for its network management techniques.

    The U.S. Federal Communications Commission investigated complaints by consumer groups that it was blocking peer-to-peer applications like BitTorrent, and earlier this month ordered Comcast to modify its network management.

    Comcast has said that by the end of the year it will change its network management practices to ensure all Web traffic is treated essentially the same, but has also been exploring other ways to prevent degradation of its Internet service delivery.

    One consumer group said while Comcast's new 250 GB limit was "relatively high," it could eventually ensnare customers as technology progresses.

    "If Comcast has oversold their network to the point of creating congestion problems, then well-disclosed caps for Internet use are a better short-term solution than Comcast's current practice of illegally blocking Internet traffic," said S Derek Turner of Free Press, a Washington, D.C.-based consumer advocacy group that filed a complaint about Comcast's network management practices earlier this year.

    The Philadelphia-based company is not alone in trying to come up with ways to limit heavy Internet usage.

    Time Warner Cable Inc, the second-largest U.S. cable operator, said in January it would run a trial of billing Internet subscribers based on usage rather than a flat fee.

    Comcast spokesman Charlie Douglas said Comcast was also considering so-called consumption-based billing, but no decisions had been made.

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  • #2
    At the moment, 250 GB is quite a sensible limit, isn't it? Who of us has really needed any more than that on their home line?
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    • #3
      Yes it is, for now. But in the HD Video world...

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      Diplomacy, it's a way of saying “nice doggie”, until you find a rock!

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      • #4
        I don't know. I can move many gigabytes in a day. They give you a line capable of delivering 25MBit/s, and then tell you not to use it? WTF?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Gurm View Post
          I can move many gigabytes in a day.
          Of course you can. We all can. But do we? Would we, if we only downloaded legal stuff we actually intend to use?
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          • #6
            Originally posted by az View Post
            Of course you can. We all can. But do we? Would we, if we only downloaded legal stuff we actually intend to use?

            Well ok, there is that. But STILL...
            The Internet - where men are men, women are men, and teenage girls are FBI agents!

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            If only life were as easy as you
            I'm the least you could do, oh yeah
            If only life were as easy as you
            I would still get screwed

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            • #7
              Originally posted by az View Post
              Of course you can. We all can. But do we? Would we, if we only downloaded legal stuff we actually intend to use?

              I work from home in an IT/Server Admin position. I constantly use large amounts of bandwidth all day long, and that's not including the downloads of legal content such as applications I test and use for work. I bet I'd bust that 250 GB limit without pirating a single thing.
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              • #8
                Here, Rogers, the biggest cable internet provider is capping people at 60GB/month, or 90, if you go with their top speed package.
                This is why I was arguing against blu rays death, due to downloads back when Jerry was still talking
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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jammrock View Post
                  I work from home in an IT/Server Admin position. I constantly use large amounts of bandwidth all day long, and that's not including the downloads of legal content such as applications I test and use for work. I bet I'd bust that 250 GB limit without pirating a single thing.
                  Jamm, as you use it so heavily for commercial purposes, should you expect to be able to utilise a domestic service? I know that when I've contacted my cable provider and said 'I need it urgently for work' I got the repsonse that it was a residential service and if it was mission-critical I should be paying for something else more expensive.
                  FT.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Fat Tone View Post
                    Jamm, as you use it so heavily for commercial purposes, should you expect to be able to utilise a domestic service?
                    My point.

                    But of course with streaming od/or HD media on the rise, easy-to-use online backup systems, ever-growing photo file sizes, and consumer HD video cameras, 250 GB will become a limitation for some in the near future. I do think they'll raise it when supply and demand increase though.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Fat Tone View Post
                      Jamm, as you use it so heavily for commercial purposes, should you expect to be able to utilise a domestic service? I know that when I've contacted my cable provider and said 'I need it urgently for work' I got the repsonse that it was a residential service and if it was mission-critical I should be paying for something else more expensive.

                      Except the only difference between my ISP's residential service and commercial service is the name. Pricing and speeds are identical. Though I use a small area, local ISP (monopoly anyone?) who doesn't have any interests outside their local service area, so unless they get bought out I really don't have anything to worry about.

                      If I was using someone like Comcast for my service you can bet I would be using a commercial service though.
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                      • #12
                        I can download 250GB in less than 3 days. Currently disk space and time to burn DVDs is the bottleneck of my downloads, not the 10Mb symmetric optics.

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                        • #13
                          IPTV is going to put a big strain on usage.

                          ... and it's 250 GB to wean the users then down it goes.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by UtwigMU View Post
                            I can download 250GB in less than 3 days. Currently disk space and time to burn DVDs is the bottleneck of my downloads, not the 10Mb symmetric optics.

                            You really download legally and watch all those movies? When do you have time to work to afford that?

                            Nobody denies that it's easy filling 250 GB with pirated porn.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by az View Post
                              You really download legally and watch all those movies? When do you have time to work to afford that?

                              Nobody denies that it's easy filling 250 GB with pirated porn.

                              It doesn't even have to pr0n! If you really wanted to legally tick off your ISP you could go to Microsoft.com and download 250 GB worth of legal evaluation copies of software and pull in over 250 GB of stuff in just a couple of days.

                              Not to mention people like me who have satellite with On-Demand video, which downloads across the internet to the DVR HDD. Some of the new On-Demand stuff is 1080p video with a high rez surround audio mix. Download a few of those and you are legally over 100 GB just right there.

                              Personally I think this is a dumb move for Comcast. What this all boils down to is this: Comcast is just looking for ways to cram more people on to their aging infrastructure without paying the cash to upgrade their systems and provide a solid broadband experience for their customers, no matter what their surfing habits are...end of story.
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