"Star Trek" trailer #2 - full length & KEWL

[Dr Mordrid]

Link.... (right-click Save As - 41 mb QT)

Enterprise construction site


Warping out


Spock transporting


Vulcan


Shuttle bay


Uhura/Zoe Saldana - nice uniform

[Mehen]

Never really got into Star Trek, but I saw the new trailer for it (went to see Quantum) and I must admit it looks pretty cool. And it has Simon Pegg in it, how bad could it be?

[Nowhere]

Since when Constitution class ships can be constructed on the surface of a planet?


And when it comes to my impressions of the actors...McCoy & Scotty seem to be OK, but Kirk & Spock...please, that's the best ones they could find?... :/

[Jammrock]

High def here:

http://www.apple.com/trailers/paramount/startrek/

[KRSESQ]

I'll reserve judgement until I've actually seen the film, but I fear Abrams might be playing fast and loose with the Star Trek mythos.

Kevin

[MultimediaMan]

That "Shuttle Bay" is probably the Blimp hangar at Tustin MCAS in Orange County. We used to go there for the odd air show or demonstration.

I'm glad they filmed it there: The City wants to tear it down.

[Dr Mordrid]

Since when Constitution class ships can be constructed on the surface of a planet?

Since the Trek novels and the book "The Making of Star Trek" which states that the Enterprise was built on Earth but final assembly was done in space. This info was also on a background display for the series "Enterprise" but the shot was never used.

Also don't forget that the USS Voyager was capable of landing on a planets surface and taking off again.

I'll reserve judgement until I've actually seen the film, but I fear Abrams might be playing fast and loose with the Star Trek mythos.

Kevin

The TOS novels "Prime Directive" and "Spock's World" provided much of the inspiration for this script, along with canon info from the TNG and Enterprise episodes.

[Nowhere]

Woudl explainign how they lift them into robit would be a major spoiler? :P

[WxDude]

In the "Lost Years" trilogy of books (takes place between the end of the 5 year TOS mission
and ST:TMP) the saucer is separated from the secondary hull and is flown down to the surface
for it refit. The secondary/engineering hull refit was done in drydock in orbit. Also, the Enterprise
class starships (movie Enterprise) was able to use the saucer as an emergency escape.

Unlike the Enterprise D/E, they could not reconnect the 2 hulls. It was a one shot deal.

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- Wx

[cjolley]

Why couldn't it just fly up?
We know from the TOS episode ""Tomorrow is Yesterday" that the Enterprise could fly down to around 100,000 feet. Why not further?

Failing that, a ground based teleporter might be able to just beam it into space.

[Dr Mordrid]

Don't forget that they had anti & artificial gravity technology, also used for inertial damping, meaning that they could float it up high enough for the impulse engines to be used for getting to space dock where final assembly/calibration could be done.

[Jammrock]

Also don't forget that the USS Voyager was capable of landing on a planets surface and taking off again.

But the USS Voyager was what ... 2-3 generations newer than Enterprise and not a flagship size craft if I recall correctly.


Man, my nerditude level has skyrocketed just reading this thread. The scary thing is I understand a lot of the references and I haven't even seen any Star Trek for a decade.

[Dr Mordrid]

But the USS Voyager was what ... 2-3 generations newer than Enterprise and not a flagship size craft if I recall correctly.

Newer, yes, but anti/artificial gravity had been well developed as far back as the Enterprise NX-01.

That plus;

Intrepid Class (Voyager etc.): 700,000+ metric tons

Constitution Class (Enterprise etc.): <1,000,000 metric tons

so Voyager was <30% smaller.

[cjolley]

Not to mention that ST has a tradition of inconsistency that is part of it's charm.
Really, just about anything would be fair game for getting it in orbit.

[WxDude]

They probably will just fly it up once everything is done. In the Lost years, they split it because
the work on the saucer section required there to be a breathable environment/gravity. Since
those systems wouldn't be online in orbit until a significant part of the secondary hull work
was done, they could speed things up by doing it on the planet.

Now, I know that (according to the technical manuals) that the later ships (Enterprise-D) were
built such that the structure could not support itself on the surface. It required the use
of the structural integrity fields to support the ship. But I can believe that the earlier generations
were built with a much heftier structure just due to the lack of technology. I can also see that
the Constitution class ships could be designed such that they could withstand a slow ascent
from the surface, but the design would not be able to slow itself down enough for reentry. There
would be much greater forces on the ship for reentry.

It should be interesting to see what they do. I haven't been this excited to see a Star Trek movie
since First Contact. I didn't even see the last 2 until they were out on DVD for a VERY VERY
long time.